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Tizian
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 Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:06 am Post subject: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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Has anyone seen a chassis plate like this before?
It's from a friends bus. My bus does not have the index H behind the type number.
In the model number section here on the samba it says that the indices H and G were only used on barndoors.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/modelstype2.php
So we are a bit confused...
Edit:
Even the VIN number in the engine compartment has the 24/H type stamped above the number, too. |
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Lind
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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What does the M-code plate look like? Does the bus appear to have any special options? Something had to be different on the build.
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FarmerBill
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:08 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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| Those fasteners look like some kind of variation on y-type or tri-wing screws. They are a tamper resistant type used mostly on modern electronics. I don't recall ever coming across any quite so large though. |
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Tizian
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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It's a 67 slider, walkthru.
Which is strange. A walkthru should be a type 25, correct? Let's see what the m-plate tells us... |
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Laulau
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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The plate have been remove for the new paint.
The Mplate say : walk through, right sliding door, full meddle seat, Yellow bulbs and rear reflectors for France.
It's '67 january model. |
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Lind
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| Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:58 pm Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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| Tizian wrote: |
It's a 67 slider, walkthru.
Which is strange. A walkthru should be a type 25, correct? Let's see what the m-plate tells us... |
Type 24 is a full middle seat.
Type 25 is a 2/3 middle seat.
walkthrough or bench seat is a different option.
It would be nice to know the actual numbers on the M-code plate. The bus obviously has some special stuff going on.
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Tizian
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 2:09 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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| Lind wrote: |
Type 24 is a full middle seat.
Type 25 is a 2/3 middle seat.
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Sure! You're right - my bad!
I asked Laulau to post his m-plate, since it's his bus.
But again, has anyone ever seen this "H" stamped to the VIN or the chassis plate? |
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Laulau
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:22 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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Tizian
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:51 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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| Laulau wrote: |
| Yes you can ! |
Ok, here it comes:
So it's
397 for French equipment
081 for walkthrough
164 for sliding door
FR for France
241 deluxe cargo doors on the right
and color combinations
Looks pretty much like my sliding door tag...
BTW does anyone know what the 6 behind the type stands for?
Here the VIN in the engine compartment:
Hope that's OK Laulau  |
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von_hansel
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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| Tizian wrote: |
| BTW does anyone know what the 6 behind the type stands for? |
The fourth digit is the paint finish. Example is primer or nitro lacquer. I believe at this time "6" is unknown.
Also to note - 2416 is the model type and paint finish on the '67 Double Door Slider 21 Window that is currently on BaT. It also had its own build thread (found here) |
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Tizian
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 4:12 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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Experts please!
Anyone ever seen this before? |
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Lind
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 5:49 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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| Tizian wrote: |
Experts please!
Anyone ever seen this before? |
I have been researching buses for almost 30 years. When I started on M-code plates, there was no internet, and very few books about buses. I actually used the process of elimination to deduce M-code plates early on. Since then, I have used every resource I can find and I specifically check out special model and special order buses whenever they come up. Early doublecabs have the 26-16 designation, and Westfalias have the 23-42, etc. designations, which refer to their SO numbers respectively. Early barndoors, and early beetles use two digit model numbers with a letter, but that is only in the early '50s. Some special paint buses have M-544 for special paint, on top of the paint code. There are plenty of high spec buses with two rows of M-codes. I have never seen anything other than the VIN number stamped into the VIN location on any bus. This one is unique. I have never seen anything like it.
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oakman
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:16 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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This is the vin plate on an Italian delivered so-34 I checked out a while back..
M-code:
The bus:
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Tizian
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 7:17 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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| oakman wrote: |
This is the vin plate on an Italian delivered so-34 I checked out a while back..
M-code:
The bus:
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Thanks everyone!
This seems to be an approval number from the Italian transportation authority according to the country specific regulations.
IGM = "Ispettorato Generale Motorizzazione"
OM = "omologazione"
The "H" in our case is probably there for another reason... |
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oakman
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:10 am Post subject: Re: Chassis Plate with Index H |
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| Tizian wrote: |
Thanks everyone!
This seems to be an approval number from the Italian transportation authority according to the country specific regulations.
IGM = "Ispettorato Generale Motorizzazione"
OM = "omologazione"
The "H" in our case is probably there for another reason... |
Thank you for the information, very interesting!
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