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Louie62
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| I own a 1962 Canadian standard beetle painted L380 turquoise. I’ve looked all over the internet trying to find a picture of the interior of a turquoise Canadian standard, but none seem to exist from what I’ve found. I’m wondering if anyone knows if the rubber floor mats are suppose to be black or grey? |
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ZENVWDRIVER
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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yes, black or gray - i'd say, use what you can find - user: second air force has a '56 standard- ask him in a PM - z
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Helfen
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| Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2021 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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| I own a 1962 Canadian standard beetle painted L380 turquoise. I’ve looked all over the internet trying to find a picture of the interior of a turquoise Canadian standard, but none seem to exist from what I’ve found. I’m wondering if anyone knows if the rubber floor mats are suppose to be black or grey? |
In 1962 Canada does not have a standard model, however they do have a upscale version of the standard model called a 1200 Custom. They are both Type 111's
L 380 was not available on the Type 111's for 1962. The color was available on a 62 deluxe.
The answer to your question though is black |
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sunroof
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 10:15 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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In 1962 Canada does not have a standard model, however they do have a upscale version of the standard model called a 1200 Custom. They are both Type 111's
L 380 was not available on the Type 111's for 1962. The color was available on a 62 deluxe.
The answer to your question though is black |
Somewhat right and somewhat wrong.
Canada had a Canadian custom. This had a standard interior with some deluxe features. L380 was definitely available for 1962 Canadian custom.
Here is a car I found in Gimli many long times ago:
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Helfen
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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In 1962 Canada does not have a standard model, however they do have a upscale version of the standard model called a 1200 Custom. They are both Type 111's
L 380 was not available on the Type 111's for 1962. The color was available on a 62 deluxe.
The answer to your question though is black |
Somewhat right and somewhat wrong.
Canada had a Canadian custom. This had a standard interior with some deluxe features. L380 was definitely available an 1962 Canadian custom.
Here is a car I found in Gimli many long times ago:
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L 380 is not a Type 111 color for a 62 standard or a 1200 Custom.
L 380 is a deluxe color for a deluxe.
Models 111, 112, 115, 116
August 1958 up to July 1964, from Chassis No. 2 060 332 up to 6 502 399
up to July 1963
up to Ch. No.
5 677 118 from Feb 63 - July 1963
from Ch. No. 5 315 042
up to 5 677 118 from August 1963 up to July 1964
from Ch. No. 5 677 119 up to 6 502 399
Paint L 225 jupiter grey
L 390 gulf blue
L 456 (11) ruby red
L 360 (12) sea blue
L 87 (13) pearl white
L 469 (1 anthracite
Upholstery - cloth medium grey medium grey
Upholstery -
leatherette 70 grey cord pattern 70 grey cord pattern 70 grey cord pattern 70 grey cord pattern
Wheel disc L 392 misty grey L 393 king's blue L 41 black
L 41 black
L 41 black
L 41 black
Rim L 464 slate L 392 misty grey L 87 (13) pearl white
L 289 blue-white
L 87 (13) pearl white
L 87 (13) pearl white
Gearshift and
hand brake lever *) L 467 basalt grey L 469 anthracite
L 43 grey-black L 43 grey-black L 43 grey-black L 43 grey-black
Steering column tube L 41 black
L 41 black
L 466 silver beige
L 466 silver beige
L 466 silver beige
L 466 silver beige
Bumper, hubcap,
outer a handle L 226 silver grey
L 226 silver grey
L 328 steel grey L 328 steel grey L 328 steel grey L 328 steel grey
Seat frame L 466 silver beige; Remark *) up to Ch. No. 4 010 994 L 467 basalt grey, from Ch. No. 4 010 995 L 469 anthracite |
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sunroof
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 3:25 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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Yes, I know all that but here we have a 1962 Canadian custom in L380 and not the only one I have seen. So it was definitely available for these cars.
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Helfen
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| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2021 6:20 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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Yes, I know all that but here we have a 1962 Canadian custom in L380 and not the only one I have seen. So it was definitely available for these cars.
Don |
Sorry not available and those cars are nearly SIXTY years old and could have been painted in deluxe or Type 113 colors. I have provided proof. Just because you've seen cars in that color doesn't mean the factory did it.
Go to the Technical section under paint and upholstery ( Models 111, 112, 115, 116
August 1958 up to July 1964 ) and see it for yourself. Make sure you are looking in the section for standard models. |
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sunroof
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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None of that stuff applies to Canada. I have had a '59 Canadian custom in L434 Fjord blue as well as L335 Capri blue and L14 mignonette green. I had a '58 canadian custom in L334 glacier as well as L243 Diamond grey. I have seen 1953 Canadian customs in L19 Atlantic green, L11 Pastel green and L272 sahara beige. I'm currently retoring a '54 in L276 ultramaroon. I have seen a '57 Canadian custom in L243 Diamond green and L41 black.
In short Canadian customs came in the whole pallet of colours for a given year.
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:13 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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None of that stuff applies to Canada. I have had a '59 Canadian custom in L434 Fjord blue as well as L335 Capri blue and L14 mignonette green. I had a '58 canadian custom in L334 glacier as well as L243 Diamond grey. I have seen 1953 Canadian customs in L19 Atlantic green, L11 Pastel green and L272 sahara beige. I'm currently retoring a '54 in L276 ultramaroon. I have seen a '57 Canadian custom in L243 Diamond green and L41 black.
In short Canadian customs came in the whole pallet of colours for a given year.
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Just show me the VW color charts for a Canadian 1200 Custom to prove what you have said is all I ask. |
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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| Just show me the VW color charts for a Canadian 1200 Custom to prove what you have said is all I ask. |
The only one I can find covers Canadian Deluxe and Custom cars from January 1954 through roughly the first part of the 1961 model. While not all colours available with the Deluxe were an option, it does support the fact the Canadian Customs were available in many more colours than the typical Type 111/Standard.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/8_59_paint_book.php
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| Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2021 7:55 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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| Just show me the VW color charts for a Canadian 1200 Custom to prove what you have said is all I ask. |
The only one I can find covers Canadian Deluxe and Custom cars from January 1954 through roughly the first part of the 1961 model. While not all colours available with the Deluxe were an option, it does support the fact the Canadian Customs were available in many more colours than the typical Type 111/Standard.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/8_59_paint_book.php |
Or the typical 1200"A" Custom?.
I have a 65 1200"A" Custom ( a German car) and the colors are identical to the plain 1200"A" ( note standard becomes 1200"A" in 1965 ). |
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Helfen
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 9:55 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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The first link goes to the samba beginning.
The second link is for 1960 models.
the third link is interesting because later ( for 1962 there is no brochure ) the 1963 Canadian Custom is called 1200 Custom see below;
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/lit/63canadafullline/page3_4.jpg |
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sunroof
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:57 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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The first link goes to the samba beginning.
The second link is for 1960 models.
the third link is interesting because later ( for 1962 there is no brochure ) the 1963 Canadian Custom is called 1200 Custom see below; |
I don't know how that happened for the first link, I cut and pasted it but our fearless leader fixed it.
The second link is for 1960 model I know, the point of the link was to show that turquoise was available as a custom colour which this proves.
The link you post tells us that they began calling the beetle the 1200 at some point. Why was this done? Anyways if you read the text they repeatedly refer to the "custom" without the 1200 designation, so it is still called the Canadian custom.
Also would you like to hazard a guess as to what colour the car is in the picture? Looks suspiciously like turquoise to me.
BTW this has been a fun discussion and I'm learning lots.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 11:30 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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The first link goes to the samba beginning.
The second link is for 1960 models.
the third link is interesting because later ( for 1962 there is no brochure ) the 1963 Canadian Custom is called 1200 Custom see below; |
I don't know how that happened for the first link, I cut and pasted it but our fearless leader fixed it.
The second link is for 1960 model I know, the point of the link was to show that turquoise was available as a custom colour which this proves.
The link you post tells us that they began calling the beetle the 1200 at some point. Why was this done? Anyways if you read the text they repeatedly refer to the "custom" without the 1200 designation, so it is still called the Canadian custom.
Also would you like to hazard a guess as to what colour the car is in the picture? Looks suspiciously like turquoise to me.
BTW this has been a fun discussion and I'm learning lots.
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The Canadian Custom is different than the European Custom. My 65 1200"A" Custom that was made mid January 1965 has the last year of the 36hp engine manual choke with fresh air heater and 40hp exhaust-if you want to know how they got a 36hp to have fresh air heat exchangers and 40 hp muffler PM me. I know that the 65 Canadian 1200Custom comes with the 40hp engine instead. My 65 1200"A" Custom is also the last year for no seat tracks, instead uses the stud in the floor and the claw and wingnut to hold down the sear rail. I don't know if the Canadian cars still use this method.
This 1200 Custom thing goes away in Europe in 1966 because In Europe the 1200"A" is up graded with the previous year Custom's features. In Europe for 1966 you have two 1200 models, the 1200"A" and a 1200 deluxe and they both have the 1200 badge on the rear deck lid. |
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sunroof
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:01 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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The Canadian Custom is different than the European Custom. My 65 1200"A" Custom that was made mid January 1965 has the last year of the 36hp engine manual choke with fresh air heater and 40hp exhaust-if you want to know how they got a 36hp to have fresh air heat exchangers and 40 hp muffler PM me. I know that the 65 Canadian 1200Custom comes with the 40hp engine instead. My 65 1200"A" Custom is also the last year for no seat tracks, instead uses the stud in the floor and the claw and wingnut to hold down the sear rail. I don't know if the Canadian cars still use this method.
This 1200 Custom thing goes away in Europe in 1966 because In Europe the 1200"A" is up graded with the previous year Custom's features. In Europe for 1966 you have two 1200 models, the 1200"A" and a 1200 deluxe and they both have the 1200 badge on the rear deck lid. |
I am super envious of your car. I have never seen a fresh air 36Hp. So cool. I had a 1965 Canadian custom years ago. I now wish that car had been treated better. It had all the normal CC stuff, small headliner, beltline trim, etc but it had a deluxe steering wheel from a '56 - '59 and a reserve tap due to no gas gauge. It had a normal 40 Hp like any other car. It had seat rails but custom interior otherwise. The car was Bahama blue and had a sticker under the hood saying this. It was in first paint and was in really good condition for a Canadian car. The poor car had a curse on it and I could not get it to run reliably so I sold it to a friend whose wife blew the engine on purpose after which the car went to the shredder.
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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The Canadian Custom is different than the European Custom. My 65 1200"A" Custom that was made mid January 1965 has the last year of the 36hp engine manual choke with fresh air heater and 40hp exhaust-if you want to know how they got a 36hp to have fresh air heat exchangers and 40 hp muffler PM me. I know that the 65 Canadian 1200Custom comes with the 40hp engine instead. My 65 1200"A" Custom is also the last year for no seat tracks, instead uses the stud in the floor and the claw and wingnut to hold down the sear rail. I don't know if the Canadian cars still use this method.
This 1200 Custom thing goes away in Europe in 1966 because In Europe the 1200"A" is up graded with the previous year Custom's features. In Europe for 1966 you have two 1200 models, the 1200"A" and a 1200 deluxe and they both have the 1200 badge on the rear deck lid. |
I am super envious of your car. I have never seen a fresh air 36Hp. So cool. I had a 1965 Canadian custom years ago. I now wish that car had been treated better. It had all the normal CC stuff, small headliner, beltline trim, etc but it had a deluxe steering wheel from a '56 - '59 and a reserve tap due to no gas gauge. It had a normal 40 Hp like any other car. It had seat rails but custom interior otherwise. The car was Bahama blue and had a sticker under the hood saying this. It was in first paint and was in really good condition for a Canadian car. The poor car had a curse on it and I could not get it to run reliably so I sold it to a friend whose wife blew the engine on purpose after which the car went to the shredder.
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I've owned my car for coming up 44 years in Jan. I went through the engine and transaxle in 1972 when I was a unit repair mechanic (Engines and Transaxles) for our local VW dealership. I was lucky because the dealership had some old timers from Germany who knew those cars and also because I knew the original owner who gave me the cars history. Here's some pictures:
BTW I repainted it in 1973 in my driveway.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/516078.jpg
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/516077.jpg the 115 is a friends type 115 1966
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/516079.jpg
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/516081.jpg
http://www.pismoderelicts.com/photogallery/new%20format%20834/images/img_0138_edited_1.jpg Note the car next to mine is a friends deluxe 1967 1300 6Volt she bought new in Hamburg.
http://www.pismoderelicts.com/photogallery/new%20format%20834/images/img_0135_edited_1.jpg All original chrome.
http://www.pismoderelicts.com/photogallery/new%20format%20834/images/img_0136_edited_1.jpg
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I had a 115:
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| Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 6:16 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Canadian standard floor mat colour? |
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I had a 115:
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