NEW charcoal filter canisters

todd73ghia · Samba Member Joined: December 25, 2006 Posts: 180

Has anybody heard of or seen these new canisters?
http://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=C24-BAA-201-801

I think it could work as a replacement for the front canister as well by capping one of the extra nozzles and using an adapter to go from smaller vacuum line to larger one. looks sweet to me as that is the only part i have not replaced with regard to the vapor vacuum setup.

"This Genuine VW replacement charcoal canister can be fitted to replace all years of Beetle, Ghia, Type-3, Bus and Thing that original came with a canister. We have a limited supply of these and when they are gone, that will be it."

74Ghia · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:10 pm Post subject:

I opened my cannister up and replaced the charcoal with new activated charcoal from the aquarium section in the local pet store. Took three small sandwich bags of charcoal but it worked. Painted the exterior a flat black and it looks new.
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Gary · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:25 pm Post subject:

SkrapMetal · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject:

How did you reseal it though?
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70 140 · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:32 pm Post subject:

Just weld it shut again, it is pretty easy to do.

If someone needs one fixed send me a PM

Gary · Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject:

I forgot to add that you use bone charcoal and not wood charcoal as the wood likes to absorb moisture.
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74Ghia · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:26 am Post subject:

The charcoal cannister on my 74 is plastic. I pried open the tabs on the end and took everything out cnad put the charcoal into three small sandwich bags to know roughly how much charcoal to purchase. Then after cleaning and repainting the cannister with flat black paint, I lined up everything in order of removal and took a few pictures. I'll see if I can find them. If so I'll post them if in the gallery. After putting it all together the end piece snaps into place and there were some small rubber plugs that get inserted into the end cap tab spaces to assist in sealing. After that I ran a very small bead of black silicone caulk around the end. After all that.....I don't need an emissions test so I'm not using the system. Still have it though in case the gvmt changes their collective minds.
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70 140 · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 8:29 am Post subject:

I still run the expansion tank and charcoal canister. They don't cost you any performance, and if they do something for the environment... why not?

74Ghia · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:22 am Post subject:

70 140 I know it doesn't cost me performance wise but switching to dual carbs, I'm not certain how the cannister should hook up. One line from the expansion cannister to charcoal cannister I know but what about the other two? Do they both run to the air cleaners?
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70 140 · Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2007 10:28 am Post subject:

ebatters · Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: NEW charcoal filter canisters

Does anyone have a picture of how the lines run from gas tank to evap canister and charcoal filter? is it one line or 2? There is a nipple sticking up a bit in back of the evap cannister location and I wonder if that is the end point for tubing from the cannister. Right now my vert has a single line running from tank back to the charcoal filter, bypassing the evap. This is not working...gas fumes noticeable and all other leak points addressed.
Thanks

74 Vert.

Redlabel6 · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:02 am Post subject: Re: NEW charcoal filter canisters

There is a nipple in the front trunk kind of behind the fuel filler hose. That line runs down in the right front wheel well. There it connects with a hose to another metal line that is clipped into some brackets that are held on my the pan bolts. That line runs back to the right rear wheel well where another piece of hose connects it to yet another metal line in the wheel well that exits the wheel well and enters the front right of the engine compartment. Whew... then a hose to the charcoal canister.

I had a sketch of the line routing along with the lengths of hose you need to reinstall the system... I can't find it right now. I'll keep looking... You need a lot of hose up front. It zigzags back and forth under the cowl a few times.

David
Edit Found it! It's a PDF and I cannot get it to upload so i can post it. If you PM your e-mail, I'll send it to you.
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ebatters · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:58 am Post subject: Re: NEW charcoal filter canisters

Thanks a bunch. This will be a great help. I'll pm you as soon as the system lets me. ..new member.
Ed

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Sofia74 · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 2:35 pm Post subject: Re: NEW charcoal filter canisters

rbsurfguy · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: NEW charcoal filter canisters

Matt, Charcoal canister is at the back near the engine, it's like an early catalytic converter. That one under the hood, up front. is an evaporation tank and connected directly to the gas tank and then vents outside. I've never seen an evap canister with anything inside. Since yours is a later model, it may run along the pan channel, like explained above, and then into your charcoal canister, if you are going to hook that up like stock. Although the charcoal canister looks familiar, I think it has another nipple for an additional hose, and an area to possibly refill it. Look through that emissions thread I sent, it should explain it better

I'm just using mine to vent any vapors so the inside doesn't smell like gas in the heat.
Jeff
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rbsurfguy · Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:03 pm Post subject: Re: NEW charcoal filter canisters

Matt, Here is what a stock charcoal canister looks like in a 74.

Notice the additional nipple and where the hoses connect. It looks similar, but it's a little more boxy. and I think some of them were even plastic.

Jeff
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pkbghia · Posted: Wed Mar 17, 2021 7:42 pm Post subject: Re: NEW charcoal filter canisters

anybody got a schematic on the whole evap system for a ghia? I have all components but was not sure where to run some of the tubing

thanks
kurt
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davidmeigs · Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2021 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: NEW charcoal filter canisters

I am reassembling a 74 vert and have the same question. Does anybody have a diagram of the vapor line routing? I have the parts but not sure of the connections.

Redlabel6 · Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2021 6:08 am Post subject: Re: NEW charcoal filter canisters

I have a rough sketch wit the lengths of the hoses in the luggage compartment of my '73, they should be the same. It's a PDF and I have not been able to figure out how to post a PDF. PM me your e-mail and I'll send it.
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