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Busstom Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2014 Posts: 3853 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 8:23 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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Cusser wrote: |
Periodically, I check for operation of my tail light, brake lights, turn signal lights by looking at their reflection of vehicles behind me or in front of me. |
With all my vehicles, I periodically stop at the strip mall and back up to the windows after hours, then look over my shoulder and go through all the functions, including "reverse" lights.
Last thing I want is a peace officer pulling me over to inform me of a melted filament |
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Scott65Beetle Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2009 Posts: 236 Location: Indpls
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 5:28 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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This is a great product. I've run them on two cars now without fail.I run them through a relay and take load off the switch though this not necessary. As far as the hydraulic switches go I had so much maintenence on them because switches would fail for a variety of reasons within a year. |
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RLFD213 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 336
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2022 6:04 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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I use a Harley Davidson rear brake switch. It’s rated at 10 pounds of pressure in stead of 20 pounds for the VW switch. It’s a 2 prong and it’s the same thread. Plus it’s better quality than the aftermarket VW switches so no leaks. |
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toxicavenger70 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2019 Posts: 871 Location: CO
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2022 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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RLFD213 wrote: |
I use a Harley Davidson rear brake switch. It’s rated at 10 pounds of pressure in stead of 20 pounds for the VW switch. It’s a 2 prong and it’s the same thread. Plus it’s better quality than the aftermarket VW switches so no leaks. |
This switch activates as soon as the pedal is touched. That way the person behind you has more time to react. Perfect solution I was looking for.
Thanks for the HD info. |
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obieoberstar Samba Member
Joined: March 07, 2002 Posts: 1127 Location: Tucson
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Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2022 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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Recently installed the Fast Brake Light switch and am very happy with it.
I wired it in parallel with the switch on the master cylinder. Much quicker response time.
Great work! |
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Bruce Samba Member
Joined: May 16, 2003 Posts: 17290 Location: Left coast, Canada
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 3:37 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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RLFD213 wrote: |
I use a Harley Davidson rear brake switch. .... and it’s the same thread. |
I bet the HD switch is NPT and not metric. _________________
overheard at the portland Swap Meet... wrote: |
..... a steering wheel made from a mastadon tusk..... |
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RLFD213 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 336
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 7:38 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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It’s metric. Harley doesn’t make much of anything in the US any more. |
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anthracitedub Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2007 Posts: 3241 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 10:27 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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My switch went out, just installed the HDswitch and it’s amazing. Lights come on at even the slightest pressure. 26$ at the Dealer. The Hd switch has threads like an oil pressure switch. It looks like my old switch was straight thread…. Still works, the taper npt still goes in nicely and tightened up. |
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RLFD213 Samba Member
Joined: January 21, 2009 Posts: 336
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Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2022 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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I’m glad to read this. The Harley switch is perfect for these. I also put a 3rd brake light on mine. To many pictures on the forums with the headline “I took the car out today and got hit.” |
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anthracitedub Samba Member
Joined: June 20, 2007 Posts: 3241 Location: Michigan
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 7:16 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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In many cases currently, it doesn’t matter how lit and noisy your vehicle is… somebody will stack you up because there’s way too many distractions. When people are busy eDriving… they don’t see anything but their phone screens anyway. But I’m happy to have a few solutions at hand to make the brake lights work better. I don’t really care for the added microswitch, those things are cheap and putting them on the pedal cluster is not for me. |
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wdfifteen Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2019 Posts: 529 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:36 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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Interesting concept. Does the micro switch carry the full current of the brake light circuit for the entire time the brakes are applied?
Good info on the Harley brake light switch. How many amps is it rated for? |
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wdfifteen Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2019 Posts: 529 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2022 8:41 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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Bruce wrote: |
RLFD213 wrote: |
I use a Harley Davidson rear brake switch. .... and it’s the same thread. |
I bet the HD switch is NPT and not metric. |
1/8 inch pipe thread and 10mm metric are so close in diameter and thread pitch that they can be used interchangeably. |
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Bruce Amacker Samba Member
Joined: December 26, 2007 Posts: 1786 Location: Cleveland, Ohio
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 8:11 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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I don't agree that M10X1 AND 1/8"NPT are interchangeable. M10 is 24.5 threads to the inch, NPT is 27 threads per inch. Something has to give as you're tightening it, this is an old argument.
I tested several VW brakelight switches yesterday to find that most of them triggered on at about 70psi! No wonder we complain about delayed brakelight action.
Does anyone know of a switch similar to the HD switch above that triggers at a lower pressure and has M10 threads? It seems that some Euro car has to have one.
Thanks! _________________ '66 Deluxe Bus
'65 Standard Bus
Build threads:
'66- http://www.leakoil.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2888&sid=54d8dedfb3822f99c7f2ea430cb4e856
'65- http://leakoil.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=4263 |
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zerotofifty Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2003 Posts: 1562
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 9:09 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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Bruce Amacker wrote: |
I don't agree that M10X1 AND 1/8"NPT are interchangeable. M10 is 24.5 threads to the inch, NPT is 27 threads per inch. Something has to give as you're tightening it, this is an old argument.
I tested several VW brakelight switches yesterday to find that most of them triggered on at about 70psi! No wonder we complain about delayed brakelight action.
Does anyone know of a switch similar to the HD switch above that triggers at a lower pressure and has M10 threads? It seems that some Euro car has to have one.
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my experience is that the US and metric thread work together just fine in this case. Use sealant or tape of course. but best bet is to ditch the pressure switch and get a switch that operates from the pedal position.
The best solution is the pedal lever operated switch which can be adjusted to turn on before the master piston even starts to build up pressure, and LED bulbs. That way you can flash your stop lights without actually applying the brake shoes to the drums, and the LEDs can be considerably brighter than most regular bulbs. High mount stop lights in the rear window are also a good idea., especially if you have the tiny tail lamp housings such as on early Bugs, they are low and dim. _________________ Give peace a chance. No American war with Russia! |
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Busstom Samba Member
Joined: November 23, 2014 Posts: 3853 Location: San Jose, CA
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 10:58 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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I agree with this...
Bruce Amacker wrote: |
M10 is 24.5 threads to the inch, NPT is 27 threads per inch. Something has to give as you're tightening it, this is an old argument. Yesss, sooooper old
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zerotofifty wrote: |
The best solution is the pedal lever operated switch which can be adjusted to turn on before the master piston even starts to build up pressure, and LED bulbs. That way you can flash your stop lights without actually applying the brake shoes to the drums... |
Not that I would flash other than briefly for safety purposes. _________________ My name's Steve and it's pronounced "Bust 'em" (cuz people think I'm Tom) 😏 |
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31379 Location: Hot Arizona
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wdfifteen Samba Member
Joined: January 26, 2019 Posts: 529 Location: Ohio
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Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2023 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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Bruce Amacker wrote: |
I don't agree that M10X1 AND 1/8"NPT are interchangeable. M10 is 24.5 threads to the inch, NPT is 27 threads per inch. |
M10x1 is 25.4 threads/inch
M10x1 is 10mm diameter, 1 thread per millimeter
NPT is .405 inch OD (10.3 mm OD) and 27 threads per inch
27 thread/inch = 27 threads/25.4mm = 1.06 threads/mm.
NPT is 10.3mm OD and 1.06 threads per mm or 10.03x1.06 - pretty close to 10x1 |
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zerotofifty Samba Member
Joined: December 27, 2003 Posts: 1562
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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Last night, driving home from seeing my folks, hiway 80 in my old 914, on the S.F. Bay Bridge, 10 pm. very heavy traffic. I am in slow lane, moving with the flow of maybe 25 mph max, stop and go (all six lanes going the same speed) but leaving a safe gap ahead of me, of about four or five car length. and some A hole in a big lifted truck rides my rear bumper, and turns on his high beams to flash me. truck less than 3 feet behind me. what an A hole. I wish I had a rear mounted cannon. screw these dangerous these people.
No cops around when you need them.
Some drivers should have their heads examined _________________ Give peace a chance. No American war with Russia! |
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SLO-N-LO-69 Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2006 Posts: 629 Location: Central Florida
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Posted: Mon Apr 10, 2023 10:38 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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I just put one of the kits on my 73 and love it. The lights come on instantly versus at the end of the peddle movement. A very nice addon that only take about 30 minutes to install. |
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toxicavenger70 Samba Member
Joined: July 28, 2019 Posts: 871 Location: CO
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Posted: Thu Apr 13, 2023 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Fast Brake Lights switch review |
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SLO-N-LO-69 wrote: |
I just put one of the kits on my 73 and love it. The lights come on instantly versus at the end of the peddle movement. A very nice addon that only take about 30 minutes to install. |
I agree, it is a great addition to the older delayed design. |
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