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Larmo63
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Busstom
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| Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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I like the juxtaposition of the later, curved windscreen on the '66 with the smaller, flat ones just behind it. If somebody wanted to see a comparison, just direct them to this photo. |
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pastellgreen
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:41 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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| I don't like this change. And also the og owner of its 22k og miles black beauty didn't like it. I think this window enlargement has stolen very much character of the beetle. At these cars, the proportion of panel to window at the beetles side is nearly half to half, this doesn't meet the specifics of the golden ratio any longer. |
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sportin-wood
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 6:31 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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I've always wondered what the differences on the roof racks were for beetles with ragtops, and on this side-by-side photo, I see a slight curvature on the rack on the ragtop car. Is that the only difference? Maybe height as well?
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:52 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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Sportin-wood, the rack on my '62 rag is an original German ten slat rack. The rack on the '66 is a poor and un-aesthetic modern copy.
I agree Pastelgreen and Busstom, the earlier cars are more true to the original vision of the designer. Just one look at the shape of the wind wing shows this.
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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We are done working on the black '61 sedan, but a project '63 convertible is on the lift today, I'll get pictures up tomorrow. Meanwhile, my girlfriend claims this car is my real girlfriend. She may be right!
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:31 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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Here are a few shots of the '63 vert we are messing with...
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my59
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| Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:44 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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| I don't like this change. And also the og owner of its 22k og miles black beauty didn't like it. I think this window enlargement has stolen very much character of the beetle. At these cars, the proportion of panel to window at the beetles side is nearly half to half, this doesn't meet the specifics of the golden ratio any longer. |
Please provide the geometric proof to support the statement concerning the Golden ratio and VW stylistic revisions.
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:21 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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Which wire am I looking to tap into on the taillight for my dedicated brake light?
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pastellgreen
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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| my59 wrote: |
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| I don't like this change. And also the og owner of its 22k og miles black beauty didn't like it. I think this window enlargement has stolen very much character of the beetle. At these cars, the proportion of panel to window at the beetles side is nearly half to half, this doesn't meet the specifics of the golden ratio any longer. |
Please provide the geometric proof to support the statement concerning the Golden ratio and VW stylistic revisions. |
The calculation of the golden ratio is easy to google. The proportion is more nearly 1/3 to 2/3 than not half to half. The proportion at beetles with enlarged windows is more nearly half to half than at beetles before this enlargement. I don't take it exact, more as tendency. |
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61SNRF
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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Which wire am I looking to tap into on the taillight for my dedicated brake light?
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You want to tap into the Black/Red wire behind the left tarboard.
It's the one shown farthest to the left in the above diagram.
Notice the wire is Black/Red in the main harness coming from the front, then changes to Black in each tail light wire harness.
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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That is so helpful, thank you Bruce!!!
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:26 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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This car is just about done, it was going to be a flipper but he has fallen in love with it.
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:08 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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We bought this today....
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pastellgreen
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:25 am Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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We bought this today....
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You make me rady!
Is this original paint? It seems so to me. More pictures pleeeeeease! You know my passion for pearl whities, thank you! |
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:31 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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It has had one pretty decent paint job, back in the eighties. Surprisingly, it was an Earl Scheib paint job, the "premium package" done in the eighties. It has held up well for being so many years old.
The car has extensive paperwork, all the receipts since day one. All in all, a really nice car.
Converted to 12V, original black plates, and very complete.
More pictures soon.
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Airstream65
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| Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 3:12 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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| Nice car, I have enjoyed reading your posts about the refresh. |
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:07 pm Post subject: Re: 1962 Ragtop Sedan Up Fixing |
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More work today on three of our bugs, small stuff. We are updating the interior of the ragtop we just bought, we already have it sold and the guy who bought it had requests. New carpet for one.
We now have two '60 bugs, two '61s, a '62, a '63, and a '66 in and around the shop at various times.
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