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axel struwe Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2005 Posts: 287 Location: Germany
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 4:25 am Post subject: id plate installing |
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hi folks,
is there a fabric photo from the 1950‘ from the production line in wolfsburg, where you can see the the pressing maschine for the steel rived of the id plates?
Any?
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peter schepens Samba Member
Joined: April 17, 2003 Posts: 1013 Location: belgium Caesars camp
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 9:40 am Post subject: Re: id plate installing |
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Axel, I have no such source... never seen one.
Sorry.. I also want to know it. _________________ Zelensis, glassfibre body made in Belgium , disigned and built on a VW platform About 25 body's built.
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7839 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:19 am Post subject: Re: id plate installing |
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there's a photo of the guy stamping the body numbers but don't recall seeing one of the id plate installation. photos show it fitted before the marriage of body to chassis...I would think before the tank is fitted so there's access to both sides. _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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virtanen Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:40 pm Post subject: Re: id plate installing |
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If you look the original rivets, you can see the heads are flat on the top. Means there were a large heavy flat iron block as a support against all the heads at the same time, and the opposite sides were hammered, maybe manually. The heavy block might have support to the tray shelf under.
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axel struwe Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:56 pm Post subject: Re: id plate installing |
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virtanen wrote: |
If you look the original rivets, you can see the heads are flat on the top. Means there were a large heavy flat iron block as a support against all the heads at the same time, and the opposite sides were hammered, maybe manually. The heavy block might have support to the tray shelf under.
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So, what kind of rivet they used? I have seen them in clear silver as on your pic and also black steel ones. I have some 3x6 black steel rivets, but they are so extrem strong, you can‘t hammered them by hand on a new painted car with a 10kg hammer. But they also use no alluminium rivets. So i ask my self, if they use a spezial build vw tool (not a hammer) to bend the rivets. I actualy use alluminium rivets. |
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virtanen Samba Member
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finster Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:07 am Post subject: Re: id plate installing |
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surely on an assembly line they would be using a rivet gun, not a hammer... _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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virtanen Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 4:19 am Post subject: Re: id plate installing |
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My test plate and new rivets.
My heavy block which was easy to get a perfect support on table, you can't do it with a car like this.
Hammered, not needed a very heavy hammer.
The upper rivets are originals, lowers new:
Matching well to the original:
Original opposite side of my April 1951 unrestored car. I will clean it better to see the riveting better.
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axel struwe Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:19 am Post subject: Re: id plate installing |
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Thanks Mika!
So i need your rivets…
You have the correct type. |
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virtanen Samba Member
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