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busdaddy Samba Member
Joined: February 12, 2004 Posts: 51123 Location: Surrey B.C. Canada, but thinking of Ukraine
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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You'll want to get familiar with www.ratwell.com , it's got lots of cool stuff, like this: https://www.ratwell.com/technical/EngineRemoval.html
FLAPS is forum code for Friendly Local Auto Parts Store, those lights were available at any parts store, or truck stop, or RV store, even Fred Meyer and other department stores.
Robbie (Airschooled) has posted a part number for new injectors from NAPA, all good reviews on them at this time, maybe he'll join in, if not I can search it out. _________________ Rust NEVER sleeps and stock never goes out of style.
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7623
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Posted: Sun Sep 12, 2021 8:55 pm Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Nice find PM me with some EFI needs when you get to that point. I might have some stuff I’m willing to sell you. Will pass them along to you for what I paid for them.
Like these I had an injector shop service these 5 years ago. They have not been used since the refresh. You got dibs. And other EFI parts should you need. I want to see this on the road. My buddy’s have dibs on my stash. So other folks reading this. Don’t PM about what I got. Unless you actually know me
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22639 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 6:34 am Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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OkieBus Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2015 Posts: 43 Location: OklahomaCity
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:46 pm Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Xevin- Will definately take you up on your offer! Hope to get serious about engine install in a couple of weeks.
BD- Thanks so much for the Ratwell reference. That is exactly what I need!
You guys are great! |
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MorkC68 Samba Member
Joined: December 23, 2015 Posts: 610 Location: Nottingham, England
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Posted: Mon Sep 13, 2021 12:52 pm Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Thats one superb find, watching this one. Good luck with her _________________ Major; 1977 Westfalia Campmobile
- Subaru EJ20
- Koni Classic adjustable dampers & Empi Heavy Duty Anti Roll Bar
- 180W Solar System
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7623
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:58 am Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Did you buy a Bentley Service manual yet? Also, this should come in handy.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/afc_fi_training_troubleshooting_manual.php _________________ Keep on Busin'
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
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OkieBus Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2015 Posts: 43 Location: OklahomaCity
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 8:57 am Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Thanks alot, Xevin. That is just what I needed. Yes, I've got a Bentley- just need to dive into it a little more. Please pm me with details on the injectors- price, when you can ship, etc. |
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OkieBus Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2015 Posts: 43 Location: OklahomaCity
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Posted: Tue Sep 14, 2021 7:52 pm Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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OK... Read the most excellent manual referenced by Xevin and I think I'm in pretty good shape component wise. Will post some pics in a couple of days for everyone's consideration. _________________ "Life is what happens while you're busy making plans"- John Lennon |
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OkieBus Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2015 Posts: 43 Location: OklahomaCity
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:05 pm Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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OK Guys... Here are pics of some of the FI components I've got. Plus shots of the engine bay. Comments? _________________ "Life is what happens while you're busy making plans"- John Lennon |
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OkieBus Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2015 Posts: 43 Location: OklahomaCity
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Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:08 pm Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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_________________ "Life is what happens while you're busy making plans"- John Lennon |
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Xevin Samba Member
Joined: January 08, 2014 Posts: 7623
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 7:33 am Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Except for the injectors. Do you have all the parts you need?
Have you seen this thread? This should help you take inventory of what you have and possibly don’t have.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=513607 _________________ Keep on Busin'
67rustavenger wrote: |
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
Clatter wrote: |
Damn that Xevin... |
skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
I respect Xevin and he's a turd |
SGKent wrote: |
My God! Xevin and I 100% agree |
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OkieBus Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2015 Posts: 43 Location: OklahomaCity
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Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2021 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Thanks again, Xevin, for the good info. Will be going thru everything tomorrow and will let you know! _________________ "Life is what happens while you're busy making plans"- John Lennon |
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airschooled Air-Schooled
Joined: April 04, 2012 Posts: 12721 Location: on a bike ride somewhere
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Posted: Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:05 pm Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Steve,
Somehow you managed to text my office landline.
You need a set of small and large injector seals to get the factory clamps to hold the new injectors in place. I prefer the “stepped” seal as they fit the clamp better, but most outfits sell the generic cylindrical seals. Photo shows correct and incorrect installation.
Robbie
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OkieBus Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2015 Posts: 43 Location: OklahomaCity
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Posted: Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:44 am Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Hey Robbie! Yes... after studying a set of old injectors a friend gave me I discovered the existence of said seals. Actually found those at the local Autozone and proceeded with installation yesterday. Think I got it right... will post pics in a day or two. Thanks! _________________ "Life is what happens while you're busy making plans"- John Lennon |
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OkieBus Samba Member
Joined: February 19, 2015 Posts: 43 Location: OklahomaCity
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Well, had a lot of fall chores to do around my place and, between that and my payin` job, I'm just now finding time to move forward on this project. So, with Robbie's guidance, I bumbled my way through the whole injector thing...
Gonna have to do a little back-tracking, though, because one theme I've noticed here on Samba is "replace fuel lines"- So, pay no attention to the wrong style hose clamps, etc,- they will be dealt with summarily. Next, started piddling with the engine tin, whereupon I noticed a rather obvious gap at the drivers side rear:
Hmmm... that ain't right. Prompted me to take a closer look at the engine bay, and- rut-ro...
My spidey sense tells me that this rig once had a big ol`AC compressor right about there, which is probably what this mega-bracket once held-
So, will try to source replacement metal, or may have to break out some scrap stuff and the old MIG and go to fabricating. (I can sorta weld).
Next, started studying the wiring situation. Was making good progress figuring what goes where when I got stumped by the female connector in the center of this pic:
Research revealed it goes to the auxiliary air regulator. OK, but where is that gizmo? I got a used one from my friend who recommended ditching all the EFI stuff and installing a carb- Hence, he has a lot of scrap EFI stuff at his shop. Verified it's the correct one via part number-
Don't see anything on this engine that remotely resembles this thing! Which begs the question- maybe this is not a 78 engine? Any way I can verify engine year from this number?
Finally, anybody know what goes here?
I got nothing in the box o parts that matches.
Thanks to all of you in advance for keeping alive my fantasy that this thing might someday actually run . _________________ "Life is what happens while you're busy making plans"- John Lennon |
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Shonandb Samba Member
Joined: January 12, 2019 Posts: 1175 Location: Vancouver, BC
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:05 pm Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Not sure what the proper name is for it but here's a pic from my 76.
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Abscate Samba Member
Joined: October 05, 2014 Posts: 22639 Location: NYC/Upstate/ROW
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:17 am Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Friendly Local Auto Parts Store
Good for fuzzy dice, windshield fluid, and other sundry items _________________ .ssS! |
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50336
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 5:58 am Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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That is where your EGR valve attaches. It takes a bit of plumbing to make the system work
OkieBus wrote: |
I got nothing in the box o parts that matches.
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calvinater Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2014 Posts: 3327 Location: 802 The Pointless Forrest
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:11 am Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Shonandb wrote: |
Not sure what the proper name is for it but here's a pic from my 76.
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Wasted youth Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2012 Posts: 5134 Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:19 am Post subject: Re: 78 Westy Barn Find |
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Wait... what's wrong with kissing your sister?
Look closely at your wiring harness plugs. They are color coded for a reason and the Bentley describes why.
I can pretty much guarantee you that Vanagon kitchenette is far superior to the Baywindow kitchenette, but not sure if the refrigerator gas venting is set up the same. Probably not. And if you keep that excellent 3-way refrigerator, replace the cooling fan with a computer cooling fan and also do the Vanagon Bentley mod to the air priming pump so you will have a really cold refrigerator that is easy to start.
Hope this photo dump helps... it is how I did our 1977 refresh. You can scroll down about halfway and see some of the items you recently asked questions about.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?p=7358931#7358931 |
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