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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:10 am    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

Started by taking off the skid bars.

At some time someone either used a jack on them or bounced on a rock really hard.

One of the bars had a 2 inch bend in the middle.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:13 am    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

Man. I'm excited for you. This is going to be fun. You're starting from a much better position than I did by the looks of it.

Still has the fender spats. I've gone back and forth about getting real OEM mud flaps since the spats don't really seem to do anything, but I love the way they look.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

I removed everything and started looking for a way to bend the bars straight again. I do not have a press and other than getting brutal with a sledge I was at a loss until I looked at the lift. Hmmm. 2 tons of bus and the weight of the lift arms seems like a good press alternative maybe. I supported the bar on some blocks of wood and positioned it so the lift arm at the post was going to do all the pressing.

If you look carefully you can see the bend and the 'press' arrangement.


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I dropped the lift down and the bar bent straight like it was a stick of butter. Problem solved.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

First I gasped at the money shot pic...

Then I said to myself "and I thought I had a problem..."

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

Excellent use of the lift to straighten the driveshaft protector. It needs a good powerwash, but that is a good looking Syncro!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:06 am    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

Dave

Come out at 1:00 AM in your Tidy Whitties on the first snow fall and we'll teach you the Syncro handshake.

Welcome to the club, I want to see the rolling total on this build.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:25 am    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

Was this at the property where you had your Yellow one stored?
There were more than a few there waiting for some loving!

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

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Was this at the property where you had your Yellow one stored?
There were more than a few there waiting for some loving!

Dave


It was not one of those. But good guess.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

16CVs wrote:

Welcome to the club, I want to see the rolling total on this build.

Stacy


There. Will. Be. No. Running. Total. On. This. Build.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 10:45 am    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:18 am    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

dobryan wrote:
16CVs wrote:

Welcome to the club, I want to see the rolling total on this build.

Stacy


There. Will. Be. No. Running. Total. On. This. Build.


Cool Laughing Shocked


I feel like our "Laughing" emoji doesn't laugh hard enough to express my appreciation of this entry.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 12:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

So...... shall I soon be changing the title to something like "Building a Syncro for West Coast Travel" ?

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2021 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

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Wow you joined the club.
You're nuts.
But you will have a big smile (like a crazy person).

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I attached a 'flex limiter' the the bar.
Tested first with a 1.5" block of wood taped on.
I liked it so made it of steel.
It touches the body crossmember if the bar flexes 5mm.
Protecting the driveshaft is important.

130,000 is a nice young Syncro. How did you conclude that mileage?
Drilling/greasing the OEM u-joints while they're still good, (without disturbing the balance etc) could be a good idea.

And replacing the 3rd/4th hub and bearings too is a good plan.
Same as a timing belt interval, it's been a known issue for something like 20 years now. The hub probably has cracks now.
There is no need to destroy other precious OEM parts just before rebuild (as per the Vanagon custom....).
Another Syncro gearbox bearing went "NLA" recently, so you have to re-use the old one.
So keeping it all in good condition in there is getting more important.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

Taking advantage of some cool dry days to finish the NAHT with Awl Grip 2000. The high tops are a gel coat and oxidize after a while. The Awl Grip is a catalyzed coating that is very durable.

I have two NAHTs. The second will go on my home based westy 3NTROPY next year too. Better to coat them together to save labor.
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And this is why I have old shoes…


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

Looking at the shoes……. Much paint on the tops?
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

djkeev wrote:
Looking at the shoes……. Much paint on the tops?


That is what happens when the small tray you are bolding for the foam roller gets a little off kilter and you do not notice until you have lost some over the side. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

crossed feet, posed in #vanlife form ——> #5vanslife
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

Nice syncro Dave! Love following your builds. Popcorn
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

Dave I can’t explain how awesome that ProBikes sticker is. It represents an era (~ 20 years ago)of the Asheville mountain biking scene that is well like I said, inexplicable.

There’s a long shot I can ask around and find out some van history for you. I’d also pay shipping if you’d cut the metal out and send the sticker/metal to me and I’ll glue it onto my van, pm if either is of interest.

Edit: I’m assuming you’re replacing that bumper.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Building a Westy for Western travel, the 'West Coast Westy' Reply with quote

mikemtnbike wrote:
Dave I can’t explain how awesome that ProBikes sticker is. It represents an era (~ 20 years ago)of the Asheville mountain biking scene that is well like I said, inexplicable.

There’s a long shot I can ask around and find out some van history for you. I’d also pay shipping if you’d cut the metal out and send the sticker/metal to me and I’ll glue it onto my van, pm if either is of interest.

Edit: I’m assuming you’re replacing that bumper.


Mike, Glad to send the sticker to you but as far as I know this bus was never in that area. I’d love it if you can find any history though. 😀
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Building a bus for travel in Europe (euroBus)
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