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OhHerrooo Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2010 Posts: 1291 Location: Costa Mesa, CA
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Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 7:29 pm Post subject: Re: How to Lower / Raise Front and Rear Suspension |
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ataraxia wrote: |
Take the nut off the ball joint, seat the bottom in the spindle and then replace the top nut on the ball joint. |
Did this, worked great. Front is down 3 inner splines with empi lowered linkpin oil shocks. Still have yet to do the rear.
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'69 Squareback
'68 Westfalia
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Steve Westall Samba Member
Joined: February 02, 2010 Posts: 2 Location: Olympia, Wa.
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Posted: Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:00 pm Post subject: Re: How to Lower / Raise Front and Rear Suspension |
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If you lower the Type 3 by suspension alone is it important to use a shorter shock? |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22358 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:24 am Post subject: Re: How to Lower / Raise Front and Rear Suspension |
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Steve Westall wrote: |
If you lower the Type 3 by suspension alone is it important to use a shorter shock? |
It really depends on how low you go. According to Brian Fye, if you go more than 3 splines you need to use short shocks. At 3 splines you can still use stock shocks. But, I've found that going 2 splines (inner or outer) you can use stock shocks without any issues, as it puts most of the travel in the middle of the shock stroke. That's not saying you can't use short shocks at 2 splines, because you can. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
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People keep confusing "restored" and "restroyed". |
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vbrad26 Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2021 Posts: 62 Location: FL
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:58 am Post subject: Re: How to Lower / Raise Front and Rear Suspension |
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I’m going to start by posting here but may post elsewhere. Fair warning.
Anyway I have stopped here for the day…
I have lowered it one inner spline from where it was. However the car had already been messed with before I got it.
But it seems as I’m really going to have to fight the arms to get the joints back in. Any tips? I read a bunch in the last week leading up to this but I’d appreciate any tips while I keep looking. |
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slayer61 Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2021 Posts: 999 Location: CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:17 am Post subject: Re: How to Lower / Raise Front and Rear Suspension |
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You realize that the bottom one is on up-side-down, right? _________________
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... Most folks are idiots when it deals with electrical !!! |
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3/4 race cam? What's missing, one of the lobes? |
Paul
'68 Manx clone... Sears??
2276 built on AS21 case
W-125 w/ GB 1.25:1 rockers
Mahle forged pistons
CB 4340 crank
CB H beam rods
deep sump
44 HPMX
EMPI GTV 2 STG II wedge ports
CB Magna spark
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vbrad26 Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2021 Posts: 62 Location: FL
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 7:28 am Post subject: Re: How to Lower / Raise Front and Rear Suspension |
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slayer61 wrote: |
You realize that the bottom one is on up-side-down, right? |
No? The bottom what...? |
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slayer61 Samba Member
Joined: June 01, 2021 Posts: 999 Location: CA
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:12 am Post subject: Re: How to Lower / Raise Front and Rear Suspension |
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Sorry. My bad Seems the type 3 trailing arms and type 1 trailing arms are different in design. From earlier in this thread
they type 1 ball joints are facing each-other not the same direction as a type 3. Once again, sorry. _________________
Cusser wrote: |
... Most folks are idiots when it deals with electrical !!! |
67rustavenger wrote: |
3/4 race cam? What's missing, one of the lobes? |
Paul
'68 Manx clone... Sears??
2276 built on AS21 case
W-125 w/ GB 1.25:1 rockers
Mahle forged pistons
CB 4340 crank
CB H beam rods
deep sump
44 HPMX
EMPI GTV 2 STG II wedge ports
CB Magna spark
1 5/8 merged collector w/ hater stinger |
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vbrad26 Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2021 Posts: 62 Location: FL
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:09 am Post subject: Re: How to Lower / Raise Front and Rear Suspension |
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slayer61 wrote: |
Sorry. My bad Seems the type 3 trailing arms and type 1 trailing arms are different in design. From earlier in this thread
they type 1 ball joints are facing each-other not the same direction as a type 3. Once again, sorry. |
Lol no worries! Nothing would surprise me at this point.
Not usually a fan of inheriting someone else's project.
Especially on a car I am totally unfamiliar with!
I have NO idea what should be what!
I still have not had time to mess with it anymore.
I am going to try everything I have read until something works.
Some people say bolt up the lower joint first. Others say top.
Some say remove the top bolt from the ball joints instead of the lower bolts...I don't know.
Guess I'm just going to throw the kitchen sink at it and see what will work....
I think I am going to bolt the upper joint in and then with the floor jack, jack the whole assembly up so i can get the lower ball joint in.
It is really the upper arm that seems to be the trouble maker, at least in my case.
I was watching a video where a guy needed a spring compressor (or something) because he needed to bring the arms closer together, but I actually need the arms further apart! |
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