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vanmarc Samba Member
Joined: August 27, 2018 Posts: 23 Location: Virginia
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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I just ordered a WV adapter (automatic) and connector for my 1987 Automatic 2.1wbx van. I just want to be sure that I'm ordering the correct LActrical starter.
https://www.amazon.com/LActrical-TORQUE-STARTER-TRANSMISSION-WARRANTY/dp/B007ZJ7Z9S
The above links are for a manual transmission. They are replacement for SR0409X Am I correct that with with the Automatic Adapter this starter will work? I'm having a difficult time finding a LAtrical TDi high torque starter for automatic . . .
Thanks for clarifying my confusion[/url] _________________ 1987 Camper GL 2.1 WBX |
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jayinduluth Samba Member
Joined: August 16, 2012 Posts: 122 Location: Southern California via Duluth, MN
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Posted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:54 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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This is one I bought two years from Amazon looks to be the same as the one you posted??
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CDEOKDE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Still going strong. You are correct, that for the adapter, if you have an automatic, you need a manual tranny starter as per Karl's website.
Good luck! _________________ 85 Westy with 91 2.1L |
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Lionhart94010 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2005 Posts: 1417 Location: SF Bay Area / Silicon Valley / So Cal
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:29 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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So I’m looking for a Bosch SR0409X which is the 2.0 Kilowatt Starter, they do not seems to be available on line…
However I can find the SR0408X which I have seen described as the 1.8 Kilowatt Starter, which would also work for my Hi Compression ACN Super Squishy Piston 2L T1 build with an 091 Transmission…
I bought the westyventures.com Adapter and Pigtail to use with the SR0408X/09X TDI Starters for my 091 Trany with 03 Bell housing…(I realize some may think that a 1.8KW Starter for a gas engine is probably over kill, however, on occasion I have had to use a starter to move some of my vehicles out of a precarious situation and like the idea of a strong starter)
Looking at www.partsgeek.com I see that they list two different specs for their SR0408X; 1.8 KW and 1.9Kw?
In their in stock Quantities for the 1.8 and 1.9KW they are the same, so they're probably all 1.8Kw…
From Westy Ventures I know the Valeo 11 tooth starters will not work with the adapter and that one needs to get a SR0408X for a Manual Transmission…
Has anyone bought one from partsgeek.com recently and did you get a Bosch or Valeo unit?
Any other tips to check or make this combination work without any drama would be welcome :0) _________________ Current VWs 71 T2 Westy SO-72/6(Miami), 71 Crew Cab, 2015 GSW TDI
Other owned VW’s 59, 68 1500s, 69 & 71 Bug’s; 72 & 73 S-Bug’s; 67 Westy, 67 Deluxe, Other 71 DC, 72 KG GT that now lives in Australia, 12 JSW TDI, 2015 GSW TDI, 2023 Tiguan
VW technical information sights
thesamba - www.ratwell.com - www.shoptalkforums.com/ - www.vw-resource.com - http://www.type2.com/
http://bobhooversblog.blogspot.com/ - www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/articles.htm
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westyventures Samba Member
Joined: December 29, 2004 Posts: 2305 Location: Oregon Outback
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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I've been 'testing' one of these aftermarket starters on my DJ WBX 112i for five years. It's been great.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/290468609810 |
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?Waldo? Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2006 Posts: 9752 Location: Where?
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:38 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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I've had a Lactrical starter on my primary van for a few years also. It has worked great. |
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Lionhart94010 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2005 Posts: 1417 Location: SF Bay Area / Silicon Valley / So Cal
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Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:32 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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Thank you both for your input... _________________ Current VWs 71 T2 Westy SO-72/6(Miami), 71 Crew Cab, 2015 GSW TDI
Other owned VW’s 59, 68 1500s, 69 & 71 Bug’s; 72 & 73 S-Bug’s; 67 Westy, 67 Deluxe, Other 71 DC, 72 KG GT that now lives in Australia, 12 JSW TDI, 2015 GSW TDI, 2023 Tiguan
VW technical information sights
thesamba - www.ratwell.com - www.shoptalkforums.com/ - www.vw-resource.com - http://www.type2.com/
http://bobhooversblog.blogspot.com/ - www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/articles.htm |
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sanchius Samba Member
Joined: May 03, 2007 Posts: 1446 Location: IN
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:38 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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Screenshot + info from this ebay ad in case it is not live in the future...
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100% NEW REPLACEMENT STARTER FOR VOLKSWAGEN HIGH TORQUE 2.0kW
12 Volt, CCW Rotation
Design: PMGR (Permanent Magnet Gear Reduction)
Drive Teeth:10-Tooth Pinion
Replaces: 0-001-125-012, 0-001-125-013, SR0409X, 02A-911-023R, 02A-911-024D, 02A-911-023RX
FITS ON: *IMPORTANT NOTE: FITS ON M/T(MANUAL TRANSMISSION) ONLY.
VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1998-2006 1.9L (Diesel) M/T
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT 1995-1997 1.9L (Diesel) M/T
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1996-2006 1.9L (Diesel) M/T
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1996-2006 1.9L (Diesel) M/T
_________________ The Syncro years (2005-16) - The 2WD years (2017-23) - Westy & WBX rebuild spreadsheet - Sanchius & Tuna: The Video
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10347 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:42 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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Lionhart94010 wrote: |
.... a 1.8KW Starter for a gas engine is probably over kill, however, on occasion I have had to use a starter to move some of my vehicles out of a precarious situation and like the idea of a strong starter) |
I've had good luck with two "ABA" starters off Amazon. Using that starter to move Vanagon Westy after a stall didn't work so great. Not sure if that's a gear reduction thing or just that its not a high power starter.
Neil. _________________ 1981 Westy DIY 15º ABA
1988 West DIY 50º ABA
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Lionhart94010 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2005 Posts: 1417 Location: SF Bay Area / Silicon Valley / So Cal
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:46 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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Thanks might try that SR0409X from LActrical its a 15 min drive from one of the places I work... and see if I can also get a Bosch Premium Rebuilt SR0408X at an Auto Parts store about 10 min drive in the same direction :0)
I want to have a backup in stock just in case... _________________ Current VWs 71 T2 Westy SO-72/6(Miami), 71 Crew Cab, 2015 GSW TDI
Other owned VW’s 59, 68 1500s, 69 & 71 Bug’s; 72 & 73 S-Bug’s; 67 Westy, 67 Deluxe, Other 71 DC, 72 KG GT that now lives in Australia, 12 JSW TDI, 2015 GSW TDI, 2023 Tiguan
VW technical information sights
thesamba - www.ratwell.com - www.shoptalkforums.com/ - www.vw-resource.com - http://www.type2.com/
http://bobhooversblog.blogspot.com/ - www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/articles.htm |
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69tr6r Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2017 Posts: 130 Location: Shelton, CT
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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I just installed my new Bosch SR0408x starter over the weekend. I used the Westy Ventures adapter plate and pigtail.
The parts place I buy all of my BMW, and now Vanagon, parts from is called FCP Euro. They had the Bosch starter in stock.
https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/volkswagen-starter-motor-beetle-cabrio-golf-jetta-passat-sr0408x
They have a lifetime warranty on everything they sell, even motor oil and filters!
Anyway, the install went very easy, especially since my axle was removed for CV repacking.
I've only started the van once, but the sound is amazing! Such a difference form my worn out stock starter.
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Lionhart94010 Samba Member
Joined: January 04, 2005 Posts: 1417 Location: SF Bay Area / Silicon Valley / So Cal
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:27 pm Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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Thanks I ordered one from them; hope I get a Bosch Reman :0) free shipping on orders over $49, better than driving out to a store, been very busy at work... _________________ Current VWs 71 T2 Westy SO-72/6(Miami), 71 Crew Cab, 2015 GSW TDI
Other owned VW’s 59, 68 1500s, 69 & 71 Bug’s; 72 & 73 S-Bug’s; 67 Westy, 67 Deluxe, Other 71 DC, 72 KG GT that now lives in Australia, 12 JSW TDI, 2015 GSW TDI, 2023 Tiguan
VW technical information sights
thesamba - www.ratwell.com - www.shoptalkforums.com/ - www.vw-resource.com - http://www.type2.com/
http://bobhooversblog.blogspot.com/ - www.aircooled.net/gnrlsite/resource/articles.htm |
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4715 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:48 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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69tr6r wrote: |
Anyway, the install went very easy, especially since my axle was removed for CV repacking.
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be sure you have the axle plug that taps into the output flange replaced.... you appears to be leaking transmission fluid and mixing with the axle grease and flinging it everywhere. BTDT. _________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
www.thefixitworkshop.com |
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T3 Pilot Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2011 Posts: 1507 Location: Deep South of the Great White North
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:54 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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Good advice Dan Houg, i would add that the cause of the output flange seal displacement is likely the blockage of the transaxle breather. So while youre in there you should verify transaxle oil level, clear the breather hole. And clean all of the schmoo outta there.
Link to breather hole inspection…
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=344159
Hat tip to Andrew Libby. _________________ 1988 Vanagon
The most important part in every vehicle is the nut behind the wheel...... |
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69tr6r Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2017 Posts: 130 Location: Shelton, CT
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:02 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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DanHoug wrote: |
69tr6r wrote: |
Anyway, the install went very easy, especially since my axle was removed for CV repacking.
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be sure you have the axle plug that taps into the output flange replaced.... you appears to be leaking transmission fluid and mixing with the axle grease and flinging it everywhere. BTDT. |
I will take a look at the axle plug for sure. The stuff all over the outside of the trans is not actually grease or oil. It appears to be some kind of undercoating. The PO was vigilant with Fluid Film, so I thought it may be that. The mess is very difficult to remove, so I don't think it's grease. |
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dobryan Samba Member
Joined: March 24, 2006 Posts: 16473 Location: Brookeville, MD
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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69tr6r wrote: |
DanHoug wrote: |
69tr6r wrote: |
Anyway, the install went very easy, especially since my axle was removed for CV repacking.
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be sure you have the axle plug that taps into the output flange replaced.... you appears to be leaking transmission fluid and mixing with the axle grease and flinging it everywhere. BTDT. |
I will take a look at the axle plug for sure. The stuff all over the outside of the trans is not actually grease or oil. It appears to be some kind of undercoating. The PO was vigilant with Fluid Film, so I thought it may be that. The mess is very difficult to remove, so I don't think it's grease. |
It is not fluid film. That goes on pretty light and creates an almost clear coating.
Old CV grease that has been sitting out in the elements for a long time will gum up and be hard to remove. _________________ Dave O
'87 Westy w/ 2002 Subaru EJ25 and Peloquin TBD
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69tr6r Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2017 Posts: 130 Location: Shelton, CT
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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T3 Pilot wrote: |
Good advice Dan Houg, i would add that the cause of the output flange seal displacement is likely the blockage of the transaxle breather. So while youre in there you should verify transaxle oil level, clear the breather hole. And clean all of the schmoo outta there.
Link to breather hole inspection…
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=344159
Hat tip to Andrew Libby. |
Thanks for that link! I will check the breather as well. I did notice a lot of oil inside the starter mootor cavity. Seems like it should not be up there.
I wonder if that is caused by a blocked, or partially blocked, breather.
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69tr6r Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2017 Posts: 130 Location: Shelton, CT
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:31 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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dobryan wrote: |
69tr6r wrote: |
DanHoug wrote: |
69tr6r wrote: |
Anyway, the install went very easy, especially since my axle was removed for CV repacking.
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be sure you have the axle plug that taps into the output flange replaced.... you appears to be leaking transmission fluid and mixing with the axle grease and flinging it everywhere. BTDT. |
I will take a look at the axle plug for sure. The stuff all over the outside of the trans is not actually grease or oil. It appears to be some kind of undercoating. The PO was vigilant with Fluid Film, so I thought it may be that. The mess is very difficult to remove, so I don't think it's grease. |
It is not fluid film. That goes on pretty light and creates an almost clear coating.
Old CV grease that has been sitting out in the elements for a long time will gum up and be hard to remove. |
Thanks Dave O, looks like it could be very old and dried up grease. Which I think is good? Since fresh grease would mean my Output Flange Seal(s) are leaking. |
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DanHoug Samba Member
Joined: December 05, 2016 Posts: 4715 Location: Bemidji, MN
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:46 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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just to make sure we're on the same page, the red circled liquified CV grease is what is telling me your drive flange cap seal is leaking and needs to be replaced as well as the trans vent tube checked for clear passage.
_________________ -dan
60% of what you find on the internet is wrong, including this post.
'87 Westy & '89 Westy both 2.1 4spd
Past projects can be found at--
www.thefixitworkshop.com |
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69tr6r Samba Member
Joined: October 10, 2017 Posts: 130 Location: Shelton, CT
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Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:00 am Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. |
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Thanks dan, I just thought that grease was there from the CV joint itself. |
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dobryan Samba Member
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