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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

I just ordered a WV adapter (automatic) and connector for my 1987 Automatic 2.1wbx van. I just want to be sure that I'm ordering the correct LActrical starter.

https://www.amazon.com/LActrical-TORQUE-STARTER-TRANSMISSION-WARRANTY/dp/B007ZJ7Z9S


The above links are for a manual transmission. They are replacement for SR0409X Am I correct that with with the Automatic Adapter this starter will work? I'm having a difficult time finding a LAtrical TDi high torque starter for automatic . . .

Thanks for clarifying my confusion[/url]
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

This is one I bought two years from Amazon looks to be the same as the one you posted??

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CDEOKDE/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Still going strong. You are correct, that for the adapter, if you have an automatic, you need a manual tranny starter as per Karl's website.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

So I’m looking for a Bosch SR0409X which is the 2.0 Kilowatt Starter, they do not seems to be available on line…

However I can find the SR0408X which I have seen described as the 1.8 Kilowatt Starter, which would also work for my Hi Compression ACN Super Squishy Piston 2L T1 build with an 091 Transmission…

I bought the westyventures.com Adapter and Pigtail to use with the SR0408X/09X TDI Starters for my 091 Trany with 03 Bell housing…(I realize some may think that a 1.8KW Starter for a gas engine is probably over kill, however, on occasion I have had to use a starter to move some of my vehicles out of a precarious situation and like the idea of a strong starter)

Looking at www.partsgeek.com I see that they list two different specs for their SR0408X; 1.8 KW and 1.9Kw?

In their in stock Quantities for the 1.8 and 1.9KW they are the same, so they're probably all 1.8Kw…

From Westy Ventures I know the Valeo 11 tooth starters will not work with the adapter and that one needs to get a SR0408X for a Manual Transmission…

Has anyone bought one from partsgeek.com recently and did you get a Bosch or Valeo unit?

Any other tips to check or make this combination work without any drama would be welcome :0)
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:43 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

I've been 'testing' one of these aftermarket starters on my DJ WBX 112i for five years. It's been great.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/290468609810
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

I've had a Lactrical starter on my primary van for a few years also. It has worked great.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

Thank you both for your input...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

westyventures wrote:
I've been 'testing' one of these aftermarket starters on my DJ WBX 112i for five years. It's been great.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/290468609810

Screenshot + info from this ebay ad in case it is not live in the future...

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100% NEW REPLACEMENT STARTER FOR VOLKSWAGEN HIGH TORQUE 2.0kW
12 Volt, CCW Rotation
Design: PMGR (Permanent Magnet Gear Reduction)
Drive Teeth:10-Tooth Pinion

Replaces: 0-001-125-012, 0-001-125-013, SR0409X, 02A-911-023R, 02A-911-024D, 02A-911-023RX

FITS ON: *IMPORTANT NOTE: FITS ON M/T(MANUAL TRANSMISSION) ONLY.

VOLKSWAGEN BEETLE 1998-2006 1.9L (Diesel) M/T
VOLKSWAGEN PASSAT 1995-1997 1.9L (Diesel) M/T
VOLKSWAGEN GOLF 1996-2006 1.9L (Diesel) M/T
VOLKSWAGEN JETTA 1996-2006 1.9L (Diesel) M/T

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

Lionhart94010 wrote:

.... a 1.8KW Starter for a gas engine is probably over kill, however, on occasion I have had to use a starter to move some of my vehicles out of a precarious situation and like the idea of a strong starter)


I've had good luck with two "ABA" starters off Amazon. Using that starter to move Vanagon Westy after a stall didn't work so great. Not sure if that's a gear reduction thing or just that its not a high power starter.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

Thanks might try that SR0409X from LActrical its a 15 min drive from one of the places I work... and see if I can also get a Bosch Premium Rebuilt SR0408X at an Auto Parts store about 10 min drive in the same direction :0)

I want to have a backup in stock just in case...
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

I just installed my new Bosch SR0408x starter over the weekend. I used the Westy Ventures adapter plate and pigtail.

The parts place I buy all of my BMW, and now Vanagon, parts from is called FCP Euro. They had the Bosch starter in stock.

https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/volkswagen-starter-motor-beetle-cabrio-golf-jetta-passat-sr0408x

They have a lifetime warranty on everything they sell, even motor oil and filters!

Anyway, the install went very easy, especially since my axle was removed for CV repacking.

I've only started the van once, but the sound is amazing! Such a difference form my worn out stock starter.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

Thanks I ordered one from them; hope I get a Bosch Reman :0) free shipping on orders over $49, better than driving out to a store, been very busy at work...
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:48 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

69tr6r wrote:

Anyway, the install went very easy, especially since my axle was removed for CV repacking.


be sure you have the axle plug that taps into the output flange replaced.... you appears to be leaking transmission fluid and mixing with the axle grease and flinging it everywhere. BTDT.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

Good advice Dan Houg, i would add that the cause of the output flange seal displacement is likely the blockage of the transaxle breather. So while youre in there you should verify transaxle oil level, clear the breather hole. And clean all of the schmoo outta there.

Link to breather hole inspection…

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=344159

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:02 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

DanHoug wrote:
69tr6r wrote:

Anyway, the install went very easy, especially since my axle was removed for CV repacking.


be sure you have the axle plug that taps into the output flange replaced.... you appears to be leaking transmission fluid and mixing with the axle grease and flinging it everywhere. BTDT.


I will take a look at the axle plug for sure. The stuff all over the outside of the trans is not actually grease or oil. It appears to be some kind of undercoating. The PO was vigilant with Fluid Film, so I thought it may be that. The mess is very difficult to remove, so I don't think it's grease.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

69tr6r wrote:
DanHoug wrote:
69tr6r wrote:

Anyway, the install went very easy, especially since my axle was removed for CV repacking.


be sure you have the axle plug that taps into the output flange replaced.... you appears to be leaking transmission fluid and mixing with the axle grease and flinging it everywhere. BTDT.


I will take a look at the axle plug for sure. The stuff all over the outside of the trans is not actually grease or oil. It appears to be some kind of undercoating. The PO was vigilant with Fluid Film, so I thought it may be that. The mess is very difficult to remove, so I don't think it's grease.


It is not fluid film. That goes on pretty light and creates an almost clear coating.

Old CV grease that has been sitting out in the elements for a long time will gum up and be hard to remove.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:26 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

T3 Pilot wrote:
Good advice Dan Houg, i would add that the cause of the output flange seal displacement is likely the blockage of the transaxle breather. So while youre in there you should verify transaxle oil level, clear the breather hole. And clean all of the schmoo outta there.

Link to breather hole inspection…

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=344159

Hat tip to Andrew Libby.


Thanks for that link! I will check the breather as well. I did notice a lot of oil inside the starter mootor cavity. Seems like it should not be up there.

I wonder if that is caused by a blocked, or partially blocked, breather.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

dobryan wrote:
69tr6r wrote:
DanHoug wrote:
69tr6r wrote:

Anyway, the install went very easy, especially since my axle was removed for CV repacking.


be sure you have the axle plug that taps into the output flange replaced.... you appears to be leaking transmission fluid and mixing with the axle grease and flinging it everywhere. BTDT.


I will take a look at the axle plug for sure. The stuff all over the outside of the trans is not actually grease or oil. It appears to be some kind of undercoating. The PO was vigilant with Fluid Film, so I thought it may be that. The mess is very difficult to remove, so I don't think it's grease.


It is not fluid film. That goes on pretty light and creates an almost clear coating.

Old CV grease that has been sitting out in the elements for a long time will gum up and be hard to remove.


Thanks Dave O, looks like it could be very old and dried up grease. Which I think is good? Since fresh grease would mean my Output Flange Seal(s) are leaking.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

just to make sure we're on the same page, the red circled liquified CV grease is what is telling me your drive flange cap seal is leaking and needs to be replaced as well as the trans vent tube checked for clear passage.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

Thanks dan, I just thought that grease was there from the CV joint itself.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:29 am    Post subject: Re: Westy Ventures Starter adaptor install. Reply with quote

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Thanks dan, I just thought that grease was there from the CV joint itself.


That is the VW moly CV grease that has been made more liquid by a leaking flange cap. The cap is in the center of the flange and is covered by CV grease so you cannot see it currently.
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