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buggeezer
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 Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:25 pm Post subject: 1958 ragtop |
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| I am restoring a 1958 beetle ragtop and I need really good photos of the ragtop assembly. I have not found any good, clear, parts breakdown diagrams or photos. Any help would be appreciated. Most parts are missing so I need information so I can proceed. Thanks! I restored my 1965 Beetle in 2013 and it was in Hot VWs magazine. I though that would be my last restoration but at 78 I am into another for my son! |
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VW_Jimbo 
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| Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:43 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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Have you visited Grumpy’s Metals?
Also, a few of the ragtop builds have great write ups, showing a lot of what you are after!
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my59
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| Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:05 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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Workshop manual sections are in my gallery.
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my59: Well son, my grandfather died before I got to drive it, so does that answer your question?
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buggeezer
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| Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:13 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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| This is such a help! I saved a screenshot! Keep it coming! |
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mukluk
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my59
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| Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:29 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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Hit the gallery button under my signature and scroll to get all the pages.
The obsolete air cooled documentation parts list is pretty key.
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my59: Well son, my grandfather died before I got to drive it, so does that answer your question?
our79: sunroof bus w/camper interior and 2.0 FI
Other:'12 Jetta, '77 Benz 300D, and a 74 MG Midget. |
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:48 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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Albert Silvas is the go-to guy on these!
He completely restored my ragtop innards.
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:50 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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buggeezer
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| Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:53 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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| These are great! Thanks! |
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buggeezer
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| Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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| Where to go for these parts? I could not find a supplier! |
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buggeezer
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 4:46 am Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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| Another question. I would guess that all the parts to the ragtop were painted car color from factory, correct? If not, I would guess black. As much as this forum has helped me in the past, especially in 2013, I need to contribute more. I have contributed wiring diagrams in 2013. I already have thousands of photos related to this restoration that actually started part-time 5 years ago. This project started with the ragtop being cut out of a totaled junker and welded into this 1958. I am a professional photographer/videographer and I have been restoring VWs for 40 years now. |
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buggeezer
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:11 am Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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| Chris Vallone on YouTube has excellent videos on the ragtop parts and restoration! |
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RUNKLE
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:34 am Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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| buggeezer wrote: |
| I would guess that all the parts to the ragtop were painted car color from factory, correct? |
Framework finished in semigloss black, latching mechanism plated. Refer to the images Larmo63 posted.
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| This project started with the ragtop being cut out of a totaled junker and welded into this 1958. I am a professional photographer/videographer and I have been restoring VWs for 40 years now. |
Okay, let’s see some pics!
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| Chris Vallone on YouTube has excellent videos on the ragtop parts and restoration! |
I would not take advice from Chris Vallone.
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buggeezer
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:39 am Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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| Thanks everyone! I think I have what I need now to carry on. I will be watching for more though. |
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my59
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| Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2021 3:28 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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There is a thread concerning the webbing straps that connect the hardware. They reduce stress on the ragtop cover. Somehow 12" sticks in my head, but I'm not sure if that is rivet to rivet length or 12" overall.
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my59: Well son, my grandfather died before I got to drive it, so does that answer your question?
our79: sunroof bus w/camper interior and 2.0 FI
Other:'12 Jetta, '77 Benz 300D, and a 74 MG Midget. |
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mukluk
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EMPIImp69
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 5:15 am Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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| buggeezer wrote: |
| Where to go for these parts? I could not find a supplier! |
Go to https://grumpysmetal.com/. They have the parts you need and a video on their site on how to install them.
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buggeezer
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:52 am Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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| All this helps me so much because restoring a ragtop is new to me. Restoring a 1958 Beetle is too, because this 58 will be the oldest I have ever owned/restored. I could do without information obtained on the Samba. That goes for my 1965 restored in 2013. |
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Larmo63
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 1:06 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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I sent you a private message.....
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buggeezer
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 2:09 pm Post subject: Re: 1958 ragtop |
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| Thanks Lawrence for your help! |
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