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EverettB Administrator
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Blue Baron VW Aficionado
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:19 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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Florian Kalff Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:34 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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Yes, saw this on EBay too. It´s not what it seems to be on the first glance. It´s most likeley NOT a ´51 Samba just because of the white roof.
- ´51 Samba had black wiper and arms, chrome was ´52-on
- this one here got the later bumper with the larger lic. plate space (or am I wrong?)
- that isn´t a piano hinge vent, is it?
The typo style on the lic plate is NOT German pre 1956, but Austrian. I would bet this here is one the Austria conversion Busses. Kohlruss & Co they LOVED the white roof coming along with SWR / chestnut. In fact, it´s easy to agree that this ´51 only three color scheme is the finest for any early Bus, so the Austrian coachbuilders choosed it quite often while VW canceled it, most likely due to the cost. _________________ http://www.samba.vewib.de/ |
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Lazaa Samba Member
Joined: January 03, 2011 Posts: 228 Location: Voiron, France
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:34 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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Florian Kalff wrote: |
- ´51 Samba had black wiper and arms, chrome was ´52-on
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I'd not consider this as a general law. We have seen many pics of 51s with chrome or silver wipers, and also some 52s (at least mine) with black ones.
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- that isn´t a piano hinge vent, is it?
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They are Piano hinge to me.
I agree on the bumper, but i think it's a genuine samba nevertheless.
Pics for wipers reference :
My 52 :
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
Joined: June 15, 2009 Posts: 2179 Location: Graz, Austria, Europe
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:30 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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Its interesting to note that the Austrian DLX above also has a later mirror arm and no evidence of og mirror bolt holes on the a post. so it must have been repainted as well.
Black Austrian front plates were only 380mm wide and the BD/Wolfsburg bumper gap is 430mm. So it is really difficult to tell if its a pre or post 55Wb bumper. personally I think it is an og BD bumper.
the pic must be pre 1961 ( no turn signals added to front of bus, still using semaphores for directionals). It seems to have a white steering wheel. Most all KRSS buses would have black steering wheels because they started out as std or panels. _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
52 Barndoor DLX Coachbuild project
55 Wolfsburg panel project, og paint Taubenblau L31
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63 1500 Notch, og paint Rubin Rot L456
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Florian Kalff Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2013 Posts: 32 Location: Bonn / Germany
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Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 11:35 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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Lazaa wrote: |
Florian Kalff wrote: |
- ´51 Samba had black wiper and arms, chrome was ´52-on
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I'd not consider this as a general law. We have seen many pics of 51s with chrome or silver wipers, and also some 52s (at least mine) with black ones.
Florian Kalff wrote: |
- that isn´t a piano hinge vent, is it?
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They are Piano hinge to me.
I agree on the bumper, but i think it's a genuine samba nevertheless.
Pics for wipers reference :
My 52 :
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Wow!
Very interesting! There is always something to learn every day.
Thanks! _________________ http://www.samba.vewib.de/ |
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EverettB Administrator
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djfordmanjack Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:43 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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very nice pic !
The bus also seems to have a reversed twotone color scheme. (dark roof and lower body portions). It is Austrian registered and in Steiermark region (St).
The oval has post 1956 German plates.
I do not seem to recognize the landscape though. Maybe Huetti sees this and can answer if this is the Frauenkopf und Drachenwand summits next to Mondsee in Salzburg/Oberösterreich ? _________________ Hotrods, Fords, Veedubs and Triumph Twins !
52 Barndoor DLX Coachbuild project
55 Wolfsburg panel project, og paint Taubenblau L31
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63 1500 Notch, og paint Rubin Rot L456
67 1500 Käfer, og paint Lotus weiß L282 w/red interior |
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EverettB Administrator
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Lowdown Dirty Rat Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 8:12 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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Two tone bumper though. _________________ 1951 Samba 20-017894
1952 Samba 20-028952 |
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mandraks Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:09 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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EverettB wrote: |
From the Oval thread, a ragtop Barndoor:
It looks like it has a reverse light or other type of light on the left hand side under the stock taillight too |
that beetle is very dark. wondering if that is Metallblau? _________________ regards
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Kasten68 Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:39 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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Lowdown Dirty Rat Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:01 pm Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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Pretty sure I can see skylights. _________________ 1951 Samba 20-017894
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Posted: Sun Nov 14, 2021 6:33 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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_________________ (20-024785)Ambulance (20-037784)truck (20-035850)panel
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Anchovy Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:31 am Post subject: Re: Barndoor Junkie - Vintage photos |
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