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VeloMikey
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 Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:54 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| Trylon wrote: |
Ok, so I got no feedback on whether or not I can safely drill new holes for the visor dart that doesn’t match up with the existing holes.
I was also concerned that the other visor would not be placed in the same position — hoping it would be close enough.
So, given this, my current thinking is to drill new holes for both visor darts.
They would then be symmetrical and, as a bonus, the holes would be tight enough to hold in the screws!
Fair warning, if our car has four little screws poking out the top, its all your fault. |
Why do you think the holes are different or won't line up? Take a dental pick (Harbor Freight) and start poking around where you think they should be. The drill bit might grab the headliner and do some damage.
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Trylon
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 11:56 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| VeloMikey wrote: |
| Trylon wrote: |
Ok, so I got no feedback on whether or not I can safely drill new holes for the visor dart that doesn’t match up with the existing holes.
I was also concerned that the other visor would not be placed in the same position — hoping it would be close enough.
So, given this, my current thinking is to drill new holes for both visor darts.
They would then be symmetrical and, as a bonus, the holes would be tight enough to hold in the screws!
Fair warning, if our car has four little screws poking out the top, its all your fault. |
Why do you think the holes are different or won't line up? Take a dental pick (Harbor Freight) and start poking around where you think they should be. The drill bit might grab the headliner and do some damage. |
I just can’t get the visor on the rod far enough. And I’ve pushed it on so hard that I cannot get it off to fix it. Tried silicone, heat, cold, hammer, pulling, pushing, twisting. It just won’t come off. So I am trying to salvage the situation.
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1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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Trylon
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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So this engine is supposedly from 1938:
Man that looks familiar. How is it different from what’s in our car?
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1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2021 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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It’s not much different on the surface but here’s a list
Aluminum case vs magnesium
No accelerator pump on the carb
Air cleaner not oil bath
Fuel pump has no provision for filter
Distributer is mechanical advance only
“D” regulator?
Seamed fan shroud
No breather on the oil fill
25hp stock v 36hp
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1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
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1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:30 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Know of any pictures of a Ghia before sculpting?
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1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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kingkarmann
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 8:57 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| Trylon wrote: |
Know of any pictures of a Ghia before sculpting? |
This
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:03 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| Trylon wrote: |
Know of any pictures of a Ghia before sculpting? |
This
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HA!
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1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:06 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| Braukuche wrote: |
It’s not much different on the surface but here’s a list
Aluminum case vs magnesium
No accelerator pump on the carb
Air cleaner not oil bath
Fuel pump has no provision for filter
Distributer is mechanical advance only
“D” regulator?
Seamed fan shroud
No breather on the oil fill
25hp stock v 36hp |
Interesting.
Are all these deemed improvements or were there other factors driving the changes?
Is the coil on top of the distributor?
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1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
More tomfoolery on
The Karmann Ghia Fever YouTube Channel! |
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John Moxon 
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:27 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| Trylon wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
It’s not much different on the surface but here’s a list
Aluminum case vs magnesium
No accelerator pump on the carb
Air cleaner not oil bath
Fuel pump has no provision for filter
Distributer is mechanical advance only
“D” regulator?
Seamed fan shroud
No breather on the oil fill
25hp stock v 36hp |
Interesting.
Are all these deemed improvements or were there other factors driving the changes?
Is the coil on top of the distributor? |
Nope that's a flat top Bosch distributor, I have one on my Ghia.
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:32 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| John Moxon wrote: |
| Trylon wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
It’s not much different on the surface but here’s a list
Aluminum case vs magnesium
No accelerator pump on the carb
Air cleaner not oil bath
Fuel pump has no provision for filter
Distributer is mechanical advance only
“D” regulator?
Seamed fan shroud
No breather on the oil fill
25hp stock v 36hp |
Interesting.
Are all these deemed improvements or were there other factors driving the changes?
Is the coil on top of the distributor? |
Nope that's a flat top Bosch distributor, I have one on my Ghia. |
So where the heck is the coil?
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1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
More tomfoolery on
The Karmann Ghia Fever YouTube Channel! |
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PeteSC
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:13 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| Trylon wrote: |
| John Moxon wrote: |
| Trylon wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
It’s not much different on the surface but here’s a list
Aluminum case vs magnesium
No accelerator pump on the carb
Air cleaner not oil bath
Fuel pump has no provision for filter
Distributer is mechanical advance only
“D” regulator?
Seamed fan shroud
No breather on the oil fill
25hp stock v 36hp |
Interesting.
Are all these deemed improvements or were there other factors driving the changes?
Is the coil on top of the distributor? |
Nope that's a flat top Bosch distributor, I have one on my Ghia. |
So where the heck is the coil? |
See the two wires just behind the distributor that run through the fan shroud? |
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John Moxon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 10:36 am Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| PeteSC wrote: |
| Trylon wrote: |
| John Moxon wrote: |
| Trylon wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
It’s not much different on the surface but here’s a list
Aluminum case vs magnesium
No accelerator pump on the carb
Air cleaner not oil bath
Fuel pump has no provision for filter
Distributer is mechanical advance only
“D” regulator?
Seamed fan shroud
No breather on the oil fill
25hp stock v 36hp |
Interesting.
Are all these deemed improvements or were there other factors driving the changes?
Is the coil on top of the distributor? |
Nope that's a flat top Bosch distributor, I have one on my Ghia. |
So where the heck is the coil? |
See the two wires just behind the distributor that run through the fan shroud? |
...behind the fanshroud.
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My 1958 Shorrock Supercharged Karmann Ghia
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:14 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| Trylon wrote: |
| Braukuche wrote: |
It’s not much different on the surface but here’s a list
Aluminum case vs magnesium
No accelerator pump on the carb
Air cleaner not oil bath
Fuel pump has no provision for filter
Distributer is mechanical advance only
“D” regulator?
Seamed fan shroud
No breather on the oil fill
25hp stock v 36hp |
Interesting.
Are all these deemed improvements or were there other factors driving the changes?
Is the coil on top of the distributor? |
Improvements coupled with cheaper production costs.
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Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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So, what we are running is 1930’s technology with improvements.
Perhaps this is the reason the guy in the MGA behind me at Lime Rock said our car was:
“A beautiful piece of s——.”
The guy in front of us in the Austin-Healy said:
“This is the most beautiful car here.”
At least they both agreed it was a looker.
Here they are discussing it:
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1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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Marcdeb
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 2:08 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| Wow, he's got some nerve? Why is it some people just have a need to rain on someone else's parade. |
He was a fun guy— I liked him and told him I would share his view on The Samba.
He was a little taken aback.
He presented his comment as though it was something upon which all could agree.
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1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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Trylon
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Braukuche
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:50 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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| Trylon wrote: |
So, what we are running is 1930’s technology with improvements.
Perhaps this is the reason the guy in the MGA behind me at Lime Rock said our car was:
“A beautiful piece of s——.”
The guy in front of us in the Austin-Healy said:
“This is the most beautiful car here.”
At least they both agreed it was a looker.
Here they are discussing it:
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A guy calling another car a Piece of shit who drives an MGA can and should be disregarded.
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Go Reds! Smash state!
Retirement is here!
1956 Ghia
1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
1963 stretched double cab
1962 Golde sunroof Ghia
1963 356 B coupe
1963 Notchback
1967 21 window less rusty now |
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Trylon
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| Posted: Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:59 pm Post subject: Re: '59 Karmann Ghia fever |
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Didn’t mean to cause a ruckus — I thought it was funny.
On another note, I warned him that I would be slow up hill but he later told me I was speedy.
Do I detect a slight revision of opinion?
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1973 Porsche 914 2.0
1959 Volkswagen Karmann Ghia
1979 Volkswagen Rabbit
1973 Volkswagen Bus
1970 MGB-GT
1962 Oldsmobile Jetfire
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Trylon
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