For which motor is this 113129701 intake manifold?

[pkrpkr]

Anyone know for which engine this intake manifold is? I thought it was the replacement 701 manifold for 25ps until I saw the 113 number. It fits on my '59 30ps motor except for the pre-heater flanges which on my '59 are out of center and on this manifold they are in line with the central hole.

Thanks in advance for your help.

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[splitjunkie]

Pretty sure it is for a fresh air 36 hp motor. That was a configuration that was available in some markets other than the US for the standard model in the early 60's.

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[pkrpkr]

Thanks very much Chris! Great people like you are on this forum.
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[janerick3]

Early, stale-air 40hp engines used this same intake manifold.
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[Larmo63]

What does a 111 129 701H manifold fit?

Anybody?
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[RUNKLE]

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[viiking]

People should really think about downloading the parts manuals available free from OACDP before asking the question here. It saves huge amounts of time getting an answer about what part fits where and is more accurate than any "I reckon" from even the most well meaning poster on here.

http://oacdp.org/type1part.html

The 111129701 is a very early manifold for a 25 BHP/30HP SAE motor. This is for a motor prior to 349222.

111129701H is for a 30BHP/36HP SAE motor 3949223 to D0 050314.
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[Larmo63]

Okay, I won't ask anything here again.
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'86 Porsche 911 Carrera

[scarabee]

Awww... nooo... I don't think viiking meant it like that!

Thanks for the link, viiking.

[viiking]

I'm sorry that I spent 10 minutes of my time researching information for YOUR problem.

I never knew that there was a huge free bit of information like the OACDP until I learned from someone on here.

The answers you get from within that is better than anything else you can get from SAMBA members.
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1966 Lancia Flavia Pininfarina Coupe - in the waiting room
Discharged: 1983 Vanagon, 1974 1800 Microbus,1968 Low Light,1968 Type 3

[splitjunkie]

[splitjunkie]

By the way, the 111129701 is the 36hp style replacement 25hp manifold.

113129701 is a different part for a later engine. It also has the wrong heat riser flanges and inlet flanges to be for a 25hp.
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[viiking]

[RUNKLE]

In 1960 the 40hp was introduced, engine code starting with 5. The 36hp continued on, but was designated for the standard model, engine code starting with 3. The 36hp was using 111 129 701E manifold up until late 1962, that’s when the fresh air heating system was introduced. 111 129 701E had a slight design change to accommodate the fresh air heating system and became 111 129 701H, this change occurred at engine number 3949223 and ending its run mid 1965.

Knowing the details are important. As 111 129 701H looks similar to 111 129 701E, the flanges on the 111 129 701H are at different angle and will not work with a 36hp stale air muffler. Muffler 111 251 053 is needed, and that change also occurred at engine number 3949223.

Moral of the story: 111 129 701H is for a 1962 to 1965 standard model 36hp with the fresh air heating system.
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[tasb]

Interesting_ the VJU 4 BR 8 distributor used through model year 1960 delivered @ 12 degrees of vacuum advance from 270 mm/Hg while the ZV/JU 4 R 3 pictured above delivers @ 20 degrees of advance bur required only 50 mm/Hg to get it done. These are two very different distributors pulling vacuum from nearly the same carburetor?
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[tordor]

Hi there all, I have a similar question regarding the difference between
113-129-701 J and 113-129-701 K. I would be grateful with any words of wisdom you can give on this please.
I have looked at the OACDP as suggested by Viiking apart from an extra “m” i can’t see any difference, just wondering if it could also be a difference in flange angle as suggested by Runkle.

[67conv]

[tordor]

Thankyou 67conv for the welcome and such a clear and concise answer.
My 1969 1300 bugs manifold is cracked on the cast tube casing.
Judging from your answer the “K” second hand part I’m looking at isn’t going to be suitable being for a 1500, the search goes on ha ha!
Many thanks