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56Cabrio Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 1899 Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Nov 03, 2021 2:25 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Hey Bill AS-1 means its clear glass not tinted.
You could take that windshield down to a glass shop and have a laminated one cut.
If I remember right AlteWagen had one made for his 59 vert back in the day in San Fernando. _________________ F#CK CANCER
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1956 Rag Top owned since 1988
1956 Convertible owned since 2000
1963 Hard Top
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4572 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Thu Nov 04, 2021 7:55 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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So "AS-1" refers to the tint or lack of...
I have a windshield that came to me with the '57 Kabriolett (cracked/broken) stashed away somewhere but can't find it right now. I'm hoping that it is the original glass and if so, it ought to have whatever logo that I'd need to have reproduced on new safety glass.
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
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2Dokas Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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If you have a 56 convertible with all of the headliner in place, can you see any of the top mechanism?
In the process of painting and wondering if I need to bother with the metal frame.
Peter _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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grailoc Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2004 Posts: 1441 Location: FRANCE and now QUEBEC city
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aa390392 Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 3602 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2021 6:54 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Agree with the above statement, my frame is inca red..but with a nice headliner, no worries. _________________ .
getting grumpy & less tolerant!
55 ragtop
56 delux sedan
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2Dokas Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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thank you both.
Peter _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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2Dokas Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 7:25 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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grailoc wrote: |
2Dokas wrote: |
If you have a 56 convertible with all of the headliner in place, can you see any of the top mechanism?
In the process of painting and wondering if I need to bother with the metal frame.
Peter |
mine is painted black, you will always see a portion of the frame when opening and closing. |
Black car?
aa390392 wrote: |
Agree with the above statement, my frame is inca red..but with a nice headliner, no worries. |
I know this one is Inca Red _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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Lars B Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2006 Posts: 205 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 9:42 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Mine is painted in the same color as the car.
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4572 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 10:30 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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I have a unrestored 1956-57 roof frame assembly that is green (painted the color of the car it came off of). I have another restored frame from Chuck's Convertibles back in the mid-1990's stashed away that he powder coated in matte black. My project '57 Kab is originally black.
I had heard that the roof frames for most Kab's were painted the body color, not sure how correct that is.
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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AlteWagen Troll
Joined: February 23, 2007 Posts: 8501 Location: PNW
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2Dokas Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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AlteWagen wrote: |
BulliBill wrote: |
I had heard that the roof frames for most Kab's were painted the body color, not sure how correct that is.
Bill |
Correctamundo!
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Great picture of what I was looking for Thanks! _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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2Dokas Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 8:01 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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My rear quarter window chrome and front window chrome seems to be too far gone to re chrome. I may just have it done and see but my question is what other years would fit a 56? I was looking through the ads in the 58+ and there were some items that I could use.
thanks and happy new year _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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aa390392 Samba Member
Joined: March 28, 2007 Posts: 3602 Location: So.Cal
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:30 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Have you asked your local plating person? They should give you a reliable honest answer, before spending a small kings ransome.
Have you contacted Chucks? Perhaps he can tell you whats is, and what is not interchangeable, as far as yrs are concerned.
I did exactly what your doing a few years back, if I may suggest all of your window cranking mechanisms are up to snuff, operate correctly, all the fasteners,( proper screws, bolts, nuts)
, I had to replace all of mine...its very technical/ frustrating/ to get it right, working properly, take plenty of pics,notes on disassembly.... I discovered this particular forum dosent share info, or answers, or that they have since left TS?
Good luck
Thomas _________________ .
getting grumpy & less tolerant!
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4572 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 11:33 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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HI 2Dokas,
A fast and dirty look in the Oval window era parts book seems to indicate that the L & R side rear quarter window chrome frames were used on Kabs from Oct 1952 thru Jul 1964
The L & R side chrome "L" shaped roll-down window frames were used from the Fall of 1955 (1956 models) thru Jul 1964
Someone correct me if that is not right...
Bill Bowman _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help! |
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Lars B Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2006 Posts: 205 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 2:19 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Bought mine from the 58+ to my 56 Vert, Much cheaper there. Up to 64 will fit/work. |
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bally Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 1182 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2021 6:21 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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BulliBill wrote: |
HI 2Dokas,
A fast and dirty look in the Oval window era parts book seems to indicate that the L & R side rear quarter window chrome frames were used on Kabs from Oct 1952 thru Jul 1964
The L & R side chrome "L" shaped roll-down window frames were used from the Fall of 1955 (1956 models) thru Jul 1964
Someone correct me if that is not right...
Bill Bowman |
By L shape I assume you mean the door windows Bill? It’s interesting that they started from fall 55 (56 model year) whereas the rear wind down side windows started in chrome (as an option I believe - some were still aluminium through 53 or part of 53) in Oct 52. What does your parts book day for door windows from Oct 52 to Aug 55? Most interesting!
Dave |
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2Dokas Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2021 8:18 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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BulliBill wrote: |
HI 2Dokas,
A fast and dirty look in the Oval window era parts book seems to indicate that the L & R side rear quarter window chrome frames were used on Kabs from Oct 1952 thru Jul 1964
The L & R side chrome "L" shaped roll-down window frames were used from the Fall of 1955 (1956 models) thru Jul 1964
Someone correct me if that is not right...
Bill Bowman |
Fantastic help, thanks very much.
Peter _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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2Dokas Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:42 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Metal bow measurements needed:
I posted this question in the bodywork forum but didn't get the measurements.
I came across this image in the classified and sent it to the owner but never heard back.
Hoping someone has theirs somewhat apart and available so I can fab a new bow.
I am hoping the tops didn't change too much from a split to an oval
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Mike Thornburgh Samba Member
Joined: September 06, 2007 Posts: 3 Location: San Diego, CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 2:45 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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2Dokas—Asked the owner of the pictured 52 Kab if the rear window was complete. He sent back a photo of the glass and wood frame plus a $120,000 asking price. Did not see a seal. I guess he answered because I might have been a potential buyer. I wish. It’s no longer listed for sale. The frame and wood components looked good.
Mike Thornburgh
1961 Beryl Green sedan traded in for a brand new:
1963 151 Kabriolet (L380 türkis) which I still drive every day.
1965 Typ 221 Transporter, sold oy vey. |
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2Dokas Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2004 Posts: 752 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:33 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Mike Thornburgh wrote: |
2Dokas—Asked the owner of the pictured 52 Kab if the rear window was complete. He sent back a photo of the glass and wood frame plus a $120,000 asking price. Did not see a seal. I guess he answered because I might have been a potential buyer. I wish. It’s no longer listed for sale. The frame and wood components looked good.
Mike Thornburgh
1961 Beryl Green sedan traded in for a brand new:
1963 151 Kabriolet (L380 türkis) which I still drive every day.
1965 Typ 221 Transporter, sold oy vey. |
Wow, that's a lot of cash.
I wish he had a minute to run out a measure that bow for me.
I emailed Chucks as well, but they are closed until the 10th, hopefully someone helps me out. Otherwise I will have to wait until I can install the frame and make an educated guess. Still waiting for the temperature to get back up to painting temperatures to spray the body and my son is rebuilding some of the wood bows. _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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