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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:54 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 8:36 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

A timeless classic Chris … like Mika said , somewhere in 49, carb support, backing plate, breather and so on. Fat Chick Forties. 🤪👊
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2021 4:08 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

Hey Folks so after a long period of time trying to find what is the correct lever shocks for a 47 we have come to the conclusion that we are go to have to continue our search well after the car is ready for shocks.

With that reality we have decided to use a (earlier) different style single piston that we believe we appear closer to period correct rather the late model two piston lever shocks most are familiar with.

Here is what we plan to run for the time being.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:58 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

Hey Folks.

So I started digging up Kamax bolts for stuff like spring plates, backing plates , front end and other stuff.

While I was doing it I had the realization that I don’t actually know that the 47 used Kamax in these areas.

Do any of you fine folks know what was what back then.

Thanks in advance,

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

I expect at this time of early post-war production they used whatever they could get. kamax were back in business in '45.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:25 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

I have a spring '47 pan half with the original sharp head bolts still intact, heater channel has been so rotten, only remains left on the pan. The bolts are Kamax brand.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:37 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

^^^ Very Fantastic News. ^^^

I will go with Kamax.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

Thanks Mika ,

These engine tin screws look awesome

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

WrennMetallWerks wrote:
Hey Folks.

So I started digging up Kamax bolts for stuff like spring plates, backing plates , front end and other stuff.

While I was doing it I had the realization that I don’t actually know that the 47 used Kamax in these areas.

Do any of you fine folks know what was what back then.

Thanks in advance,

Jason.


From memory... The '47 I did had some Kamax, but not much. I think the majority were Rasche and some Dorn.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:56 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

F*H is also common for early cars, these original bolts for my 48 gear stick

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:15 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

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WrennMetallWerks wrote:
Hey Folks.

So I started digging up Kamax bolts for stuff like spring plates, backing plates , front end and other stuff.

While I was doing it I had the realization that I don’t actually know that the 47 used Kamax in these areas.

Do any of you fine folks know what was what back then.

Thanks in advance,

Jason.


From memory... The '47 I did had some Kamax, but not much. I think the majority were Rasche and some Dorn.




I would suspect that all three were suppliers at the same time and no two cars will have the exact same combination.

Fasteners would have been purchased in bulk and distributed throughout the factory with zero consideration for who made them. They would have come in boxes, barrels or crates.

If a bin was empty it would get filled with whatever they had in bulk. Depending on how they were distributed, there would be different patterns on what would end up on a car. If they ran out of one container while filling a bin, they would get some from the next. It could be the same supplier or one of the other two.

You could have bins will all Kamaz, some with all Rasche and some with all Dorn but you could just as easily have bins with all three.

If one of these companies was the primary supplier and supplied them in larger numbers than the others, then you will see them more often, but we don't know that information so as long as a bolt is one of the three and has the correct markings, I wouldn't sweat it too much.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:01 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

^^^ Thanks for your input My VW Brothers, Always welcome. ^^^

So to validate your statements fellas and in the interest of documentation here is a shot of the hardware we discovered when dismantling the 47 front beam.

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We will be putting them back in service, however for the most part this 47 will be dressed primarily with Kamax hardware.

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

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I expect at this time of early post-war production they used whatever they could get. kamax were back in business in '45.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

Love your attention to detail Jason!
A note on the hardware: The 3 bolts that hold the rear axle to the spring plates.... These are "important" in terms of quality - and - they need to be fine threaded (as original of course).
We found it impossible to find good OG ones (in terms of non-wear-quality you would trust) and ended up doing this:
Bought a modern day hex bolt, smoothened out the head completely on a lathe and black-coated them.
"A smooth head is better than a modern day marked head" - as we say in the business...haha.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:31 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

^^^ Hey Brother , Thanks for that^^^

Here is where I’m at for the spring plate bolts to axle

What your thoughts on these …?

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(I have washers also I just have to dig them out 😋👊)
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:40 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

Hey guys. , so I ran into something I just have zero experience with and would love some insight.

We got these shocks to use in the meantime and one of them came to us in pieces.

Once I put it together the arm was clocked differently then the complete one.

I uses the marks to line everything up but they are different now as far as where the arm sits.

The one on the right with the arm in-line with the shock body is the one I juts put together

Can anyone give me some feedback on what I’m dealing with.

Thanks in advance

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

Hey Folks …. We are looking for a nice set of these … ✌️


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:15 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:34 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

Beautiful! No other word for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2023 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: '47 Beetle resurrection Reply with quote

oOoh green! Cool nice!

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