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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 3:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 Sema award winning beetle (Kevin Zager) for sale Reply with quote

Again, it has been about a month and a half, and I understand it is still for sale. Has anybody seen this VW in person? I can see by the pictures its bad places, carpet showing through and rough cuts. What is it worth? Forget SEMA and Kevins handling of it. Just tell me what it is worth.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: 1951 Sema award winning beetle (Kevin Zager) for sale Reply with quote

it's worth whatever you're willing to pay....
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 Sema award winning beetle (Kevin Zager) for sale Reply with quote

finster wrote:
it's worth whatever you're willing to pay....


… there you go - make a reasonable offer - i'd contact Splitdog, via PM and discuss with him - he knows those SEMA cars - he certainly knows more than most of us... z
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:45 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 Sema award winning beetle (Kevin Zager) for sale Reply with quote

My father told me: To buy it, you are alone... to sell you have to be with 2.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 1:51 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 Sema award winning beetle (Kevin Zager) for sale Reply with quote

peter schepens wrote:
My father told me: To buy it, you are alone... to sell you have to be with 2.



… maybe - if it's a great buy, your never alone - to sell, you may be alone - is what i'd tell my son...z
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 Sema award winning beetle (Kevin Zager) for sale Reply with quote

I like it… I don’t like it enough to pay $100k for it.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 12, 2021 6:25 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 Sema award winning beetle (Kevin Zager) for sale Reply with quote

For the sake of discussion, what's a ballpark figure for a perfectly restored three fold rag 51? My observations are that even a nicely done custom car will rarely bring more $$ than the same car restored to original.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 7:42 am    Post subject: Re: 1951 Sema award winning beetle (Kevin Zager) for sale Reply with quote

For a restoration done correctly, and using genuine parts, I would say ~ 70k.
That same car modified correctly from a California perspective, ~ 85k.
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: 1951 Sema award winning beetle (Kevin Zager) for sale Reply with quote

I would agree with that.
Unfortunately it would probably cost well over 40-50 to put it anywhere close to stock, or even a DKP level cali build. So it would have to go for peanuts to be a viable restoration candidate. So it either gets sold to someone that doesn't know what it really is, or what they want (which does happen quite often, especially at auction), or it get parted out (which is often the only way to get costs back out of a high dollar custom build.)
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 13, 2021 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 Sema award winning beetle (Kevin Zager) for sale Reply with quote

esde wrote:
So it either gets sold to someone that doesn't know what it really is, or what they want (which does happen quite often, especially at auction), or it get parted out (which is often the only way to get costs back out of a high dollar custom build.)


there is a third option. someone likes the custom job and buys the car, knowing exactly what it is wih no intention of making it "stock". clearly the sema judges enjoyed the car. its not unreasonable that others might enjoy it too.
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