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postjosh Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2017 Posts: 135 Location: NYC
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Posted: Sat Nov 06, 2021 1:27 pm Post subject: nokian tire replacement |
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my front right nokian entyre 2.0 radial is damaged. car pulls to the left like crazy. i was just going to order a front set oline but i can't find them in my size anywhere. any suggestions about what i should put on the front while i leave the existing nokians in the back?
they're 225/60R16 XL. would it make sense to replace them with a different size? maybe 215/60/R16 while leaving the bigger ones in the back?
or should i just replace all four tires?
thanks for your help! _________________ '93 EV Wkndr – 5 cylinder – 5 speed - 280k+ miles |
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MrPulldown Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2020 Posts: 649 Location: Truckee
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postjosh Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2017 Posts: 135 Location: NYC
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 5:07 am Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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Thanks for your input. If it makes you feel better, i ran nokians for years on my volvo with no issues. I originally had continentals on 15" rims but they were way too stiff. The nokians came with the 16" rims that i bought. I will either try the verdesteins in the same size as my rear tires or change out to smaller nokians on all four wheels. I would have to go to 215s but i could match the overall diameter that i had when i ran on 15" rims. Right now, i'm very close to rubbing on the wheel wells. _________________ '93 EV Wkndr – 5 cylinder – 5 speed - 280k+ miles |
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MrPulldown Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2020 Posts: 649 Location: Truckee
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Posted: Tue Nov 09, 2021 11:01 am Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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postjosh wrote: |
Thanks for your input. If it makes you feel better, i ran nokians for years on my volvo with no issues. I originally had continentals on 15" rims but they were way too stiff. The nokians came with the 16" rims that i bought. I will either try the verdesteins in the same size as my rear tires or change out to smaller nokians on all four wheels. I would have to go to 215s but i could match the overall diameter that i had when i ran on 15" rims. Right now, i'm very close to rubbing on the wheel wells. |
Doesn't make me feel any better. The Volvo isn't very heavy nor is your 93 compared to the 2002 EVC.
Can't seem to find an exact weight rating for your 93 but the web said something in the range of 3800-4200. The EVC comes in at 5236 unloaded. Max cap is 761, bringing the GVWR to 5997 (which is actually about the same as the 93 fully loaded). But I doubt most daily driving is done loaded as much as the camper is empty. I know we probably overload the van every time we take it out camping. Water, food, propane, 4 passengers, camping gear dog...that easily goes over 761.
This is one of the reasons why I am insistent on running XL tires on the van. But hearing all these thread and belt separation reports on the Entyre 1 and 2.0 it always has me a bit nervous. _________________ 2002 EVC |
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postjosh Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2017 Posts: 135 Location: NYC
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Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2021 4:00 am Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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again, thanks for taking the time to share all your research with me. it really helps a lot.
i realized that i might not have the 2.0 version entyres. i purchased them 2nd hand with some rims about 3 years ago. i can't find the info on them and my eurovan is parked about 20 miles from where i live in nyc. i will definitely check the next time i go to the van.
i was set to pull the trigger on the vredstein quatracs but they are out of stock everywhere. tire rack has them due in january. shipping is a nightmare right now. i just waited 3 months to get replacement doors delivered from california.
i'm going to order the nokian one's. i know they aren't xl load rated but it should be ok. nokian recommends them for the eurovan on their website. i don't carry a heavy load - no roof rack or trailers. i also don't drive it much in the winter plus i will still have xl tires in the back. _________________ '93 EV Wkndr – 5 cylinder – 5 speed - 280k+ miles |
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chrisg252 Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2012 Posts: 12 Location: Saugerties, NY
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logans5vw Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2011 Posts: 35 Location: chicago
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 7:44 am Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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I just bought what must be last 2.0 225/60R16 in the U S. I installed a set in 2018 and the RF had band separation after just 3K. Nokian no longer makes this tire so it took a long web search to find one. A tire shop in Michigan Found ONE in their warehouse. Discount tire here gave me a refund for the original cost of the tire. The 2.0 was supposed to fix the band separation the 1.0 was known for. |
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MrPulldown Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2020 Posts: 649 Location: Truckee
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:36 am Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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logans5vw wrote: |
I just bought what must be last 2.0 225/60R16 in the U S. I installed a set in 2018 and the RF had band separation after just 3K. Nokian no longer makes this tire so it took a long web search to find one. A tire shop in Michigan Found ONE in their warehouse. Discount tire here gave me a refund for the original cost of the tire. The 2.0 was supposed to fix the band separation the 1.0 was known for. |
So your 2018 purchased 2.0 just got band separation? 3K in 3 years. And you still replaced them with 2.0s.
Feel like I am driving a ticking time bomb. _________________ 2002 EVC |
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logans5vw Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2011 Posts: 35 Location: chicago
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:40 pm Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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I'm figuring (hoping) the one bad tire was an anomaly and the replacement and the other 3 will be fine for at least 30K . If another one goes bad then it's start looking for replacements. |
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logans5vw Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2011 Posts: 35 Location: chicago
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:42 pm Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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Sorry my OP should have stated the LF tire was the one that went bad. It's wait and see on the other 3. |
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MrPulldown Samba Member
Joined: September 08, 2020 Posts: 649 Location: Truckee
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Posted: Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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logans5vw wrote: |
I'm figuring (hoping) the one bad tire was an anomaly and the replacement and the other 3 will be fine for at least 30K. |
I hope so too. _________________ 2002 EVC |
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MrPulldown Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 11:34 am Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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logans5vw wrote: |
Sorry my OP should have stated the LF tire was the one that went bad. It's wait and see on the other 3. |
A question. What pressure where/are you been running your 2.0s at? _________________ 2002 EVC |
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jjvincent Samba Member
Joined: January 11, 2016 Posts: 1266 Location: Bethlehem, PA
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Posted: Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:35 pm Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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Try a 215/65/16. Nokian makes a number of tires in that size that have the proper load rating. The best I have found is the Rotiiva AT. Snow rated, lots of treat, 102 load rating and they are quiet after years of use. I liked them so much, I even put a set on my Jeep for it's snows.
Remember, In Europe, EV's came with the 215/65/16 on the majority of them. Thus, the reason why that size is a much better choice over the 225/60/16. |
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postjosh Samba Member
Joined: November 20, 2017 Posts: 135 Location: NYC
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 5:49 am Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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to follow up on mr. pullman's question about which version of the entyre failed on my ev, it was the original not the 2.0.
i just replaced the two front tires with nokian ones and left the two original entyre tires on the back. all the tyres are 225/60R16. the nokian ones are load rated at 98 and the entyres are 102xl. i've only driven about 2 hours with this configuration, but so far, i like the way the combo works.
hope it lasts... _________________ '93 EV Wkndr – 5 cylinder – 5 speed - 280k+ miles |
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50Splitman Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 08, 2021 10:03 am Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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I've been running Vredestein Quatracs for the past 5 years and 35K miles and have been very happy with them. Pretty inexpensive IMO from Tirerack. |
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Jonwid Samba Member
Joined: August 18, 2013 Posts: 163 Location: Long Beach
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 5:14 pm Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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Just replaced our Nokian Entyre’s that we’ve had for 5 years. One of the Entyres went entirely out of round and caused a bad wobble in the front end.
Couldn’t find the Entyre’s in the same configuration 225/60-16. Oh well.
Amazon had a set of Kumho Crugan 235/60-16 104T for $105ea. Had them shipped direct to my local PepBoys and they put them on for $79.95.
Fantastic new tire option! Only thing is, your EV must be “leveled” to use the Kumho 235’s. (Raise the front torsion bars.). The 235/60’s are a smidge taller and a smidge wider, but at 104T you get even more weight allowance than the OEM 225 at 102.
“Gowesty” .com in Paso Robles has an article recommending going to the 235’s for leveled EV’s and campers. They are right!
Snap up the Kumho Crugans! |
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OB Bus Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2537 Location: Ocean Beach in Beautiful BLUE California
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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 6:32 pm Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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Jonwid wrote: |
Just replaced our Nokian Entyre’s that we’ve had for 5 years. One of the Entyres went entirely out of round and caused a bad wobble in the front end.
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Amazon had a set of Kumho Crugan 235/60-16 104T for $105ea. Had them shipped direct to my local PepBoys and they put them on for $79.95.
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Fantastic new tire option!
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Snap up the Kumho Crugans! |
Agree completely! We had to get that same tire installed during a trip last summer. Fine tire that has served us well. The 104 weight rating is a big plus. _________________ Larry in OB
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1961tbird Samba Member
Joined: July 21, 2018 Posts: 291 Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
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Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2021 8:35 am Post subject: Re: nokian tire replacement |
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Good to know! |
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