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TheVintageVw
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 Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:50 pm Post subject: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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Pulling my spindles apart to get them rebuilt and the passenger side had shims between the spacer and seal? I assume this is just some hack job?
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Lind
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:13 pm Post subject: Re: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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Did they put the spacer/seal race on backwards and wedge it onto the spindle?
There should not be any shims.
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TheVintageVw
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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Yeah it was on backwards and didn’t want to come off the spindle. Had to use a puller.
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NUTSFORBUSES
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:31 pm Post subject: Re: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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I've sent several spindles here: https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=1036798
Real good work & advice if needed.
I've also seen that "hack" before. I have no idea why.
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TheVintageVw
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:16 pm Post subject: Re: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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| Yeah going to send them to Greg in the next couple of days. |
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Lind
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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They were probably trying to compensate for screwing up the installation of the seal race. It actually will work backwards without doing anything, but it really wedges onto the spindle when the nuts get tightened down.
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Busstom
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| Posted: Fri Nov 19, 2021 9:01 pm Post subject: Re: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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| That looks like something someone would do to space the whole works outward in the case of damaged spindle threads, so that the nut(s) could get a better grip on some sound threads. |
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NUTSFORBUSES
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:06 am Post subject: Re: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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Lind:"They were probably trying to compensate for screwing up the installation of the seal race. It actually will work backwards without doing anything, but it really wedges onto the spindle when the nuts get tightened down".EQ.
The last thing I would ever do is a Hack on spindles or hub, I know it spins, but what may happen down the road?  Funny, I've seen that more than once, even on one side not the other.
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Lind
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:26 am Post subject: Re: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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| NUTSFORBUSES wrote: |
Lind:"They were probably trying to compensate for screwing up the installation of the seal race. It actually will work backwards without doing anything, but it really wedges onto the spindle when the nuts get tightened down".EQ.
The last thing I would ever do is a Hack on spindles or hub, I know it spins, but what may happen down the road? Funny, I've seen that more than once, even on one side not the other. |
Same here, I have seen it done multiple times where it obviously worked for years. I figure there is a 50/50 chance of it going on wrong if the mechanic just picks it up and randomly slides it on the spindle without looking at what they are doing. They probably don't even know that they got it wrong, that is for the next guy to find out when he is trying to fix their screw-up.
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TheVintageVw
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:16 am Post subject: Re: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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| The spacer doesnt actually spin on the spindle right? The drum rides on top of the spacer? |
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Lind
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:06 am Post subject: Re: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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| TheVintageVw wrote: |
| The spacer doesnt actually spin on the spindle right? The drum rides on top of the spacer? |
The grease seal rides on the spacer, or really close to the spacer anyway. The original grease seals are felt inside a steel housing. Reproductions are rubber. I prefer the original style. If you carefully pull them out of the drum, you can reuse them.
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TheVintageVw
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: why are there shims on my spindle? |
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| While we’re on the topic of shims, there were no shims between spindle and torsion arms. Probably part of the hack job. |
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