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Anyone else love the DNA that runs through the Split Beetle, Barndoor, early Coachbuilts and Pre-A dashes?
It’s all about the pods, isn’t it?
I thought this could be a Picture Thread for the 1950-55 Pre-A dashes.
Art Deco
The Porsche Pre-A dash in particular has a real Art Deco feel - the overall dash shape, the pod plinth and the glovebox details.
It is more cluttered than the Split Beetle or Barndoor.
Detail
I’m particularly interested in:
1. The little details that help you date the dash & therefore maybe the car*
2. What radios were original fitment back in the day (the Telefunken ID52 seems to be installed most often today)
3. The steering wheels & their original colour (I prefer the second generation wheel, the VDM 2-spoke)
All a learning curve for me, so please chime in!
*Some dashes are not original to the cars
Display
Who can resist looking at a Pre-A dash?
Survivors
Approximately 9400 Pre-As were made
Up to a third are thought to have survived…so around 3000 cars
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:55 am Post subject: Dash Diagrams & Functions |
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Dash Diagrams
From the Owner’s Manuals. All show the early offset door handles…
1950: Early wheel, 2-piece screen
December 1952 to February 1954: Late wheel
June 54 (German): Fuel gauge, far left:
Dash Functions
The fuel gauge hole and the grab handle hole are the main ‘55 clues…
The heater pull hole was deleted Jan/Feb 55.
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Year by Year Summary
Treat dates as approximate.
The steering column was Black throughout the Pre-A period.
1950 Dash
>2-piece screen (Split Window)
>Offset interior door handles
>Opposing wipers
>Wooden doortops (beech)
>No door panel pull handles
>VDM 3-spoke wheel (all Ivory)
>Veigel gauges
>2-gauge dash (speedo, clock)
>No oil temp gauge
>No fuel gauge
>Waterfall ashtray & glovebox handles
>Metal glovebox (on LHD dashes until 52, and through 55 on RHD dashes)
>Forward dashtop indicator switch
>Large door pocket (to forward corner)
>Straight, short gearstick (used on crashbox)
>Lever lights switch - into mid-51 - initially in a row of 3 (with wiper switch & interior light switch) but then with light switch above when oil temp gauge added
>Black push button start (to April 52)
>All other switches are Ivory (to April 54)
>The very early cars - 4-digit VIN - had a clock & not a tacho (into early 51)
>Centre pod blanking plate held a circular Porsche dummy gauge (to May 54)
Body clue: body-bumpers, inset front indicators, low rear arches, rectangular brakelights
1951 Dash
>2-piece screen
>Offset interior door handles
>Opposing wipers
>Wooden doortops
>No door panel pull handles
>VDM 3-spoke wheel (all Ivory)
>Veigel gauges
>Changed to a 3-gauge dash when the oil temp gauge (single needle) introduced in ?
>Clock replaced by a tacho (date ?) so from here on, no clock
>Tacho design mimics clock with continued use of the chrome ‘inner circle’
>Light switch now above wiper switch & interior light switch in a triangle formation
>Black push button start
>No fuel gauge
>Waterfall ashtray & glovebox handles
>Metal glovebox until 52
>Forward dashtop indicator switch
>Large door pocket (to forward corner)
>Straight, short gearstick
>”Ashtray triple switch”…Heater pull, Lighter, Dummy switch
Body clue: body-bumpers, inset front indicators, low rear arches, rectangular brakelights
1952 Dash
Big changes in April 52…namely the windscreen & doors
>2-piece screen until 3/52…from there on, single piece (Bent Window)
>Offset interior door handles until 3/52…from there on, in-line TBC
>Opposing wipers
>Wooden doortops until 3/52…from there on, painted metal TBC
>Flat door panel pull handles introduced 3/52 (til 9/55)
>VDM 3-spoke wheel until 3/52…from there on, VDM 2-spoke TBD (interchangeable, & can be used up to 59, VW & Porsche. All Ivory)
>Veigel gauges
>3-gauge dash (speedo, tacho, oil temp)
>Single needle oil temp gauge
>No fuel gauge
>No clock
>Waterfall ashtray & glovebox handles
>Cardboard glovebox (factory rhd cars continued with metal gloveboxes)
>Forward dashtop indicator switch until ?…from there on, Rearward dashtop indicator switch
>Push button start goes from Black to Ivory in April 52
>Indicator arm introduced, date ? (Ivory at first)
>Large door pocket (to forward corner)
>Leatherette footwell map pockets (‘52 only)
>Straight, short gearstick
>”Ashtray triple switch”
>Map light above ashtray on Cabriolets (from chassis 10271)
Body clue: Inset front indicators, interim mid-length detached bumpers, low rear arches, rectangular brake lights
1953 Dash
1953 saw the introduction of revised interiors, and revised bodywork (bumper areas, higher rear arch, all 4 taillights now circular)
A handful of cars (100-150) retained the old light layout with the new ‘53 bodywork
>Indicator arm now Black (May 53)
>Single piece screen
>In-line door handles
>Opposing wipers
>Painted metal doortops
>Flat door panel pull handles
>VDM 2-spoke wheel
>Veigel gauges
>3-gauge dash
>Initially single-needle oil temp gauge tbc…changed to dual needle date tbc
>No fuel gauge
>Waterfall ashtray & glovebox handles (Reuter was known to install these inverted in 53 & 54)
>No door pocket tbc
>Carpet pockets, footwell
>Longer, cranked gearstick…positioned further forward (with new 519 gearbox, synchromesh…March 53?)
>”Ashtray double switch” from early ‘53 (the rhs 3rd button below the ashtray, the Extra Dash Button, was deleted between coupe ch.50523 & 50599)
>Map light above ashtray on Cabriolets
Body clue: In-line front indicators, beehive brakelights, higher rear arch, late short detached 53-59 bumpers
| James Davies wrote: |
‘53 Detail
Just about every knob and gauge (except for the Störk oil temp gauge) will be different on the '55 dash vs the late '53 dash. Here's a summary of knobs, gauges and doohickies for the '53 dash:
Bosch headlight switch with stepped knob
3x small pull switches for interior light, wipers and gauge lights
Bosch B-code key ignition switch
Stork oil temp gauge with 2-ended needle (same as '55, though different probe)
Veigel tach and speedo
3x dummy lights, same as '55
push button starter
"S" choke pull, knob similar to hood/trunk release pulls
"H" heater pull, below ashtray, knob similar to hood/trunk release pulls
Autofume cigar lighter, below ashtray
2x waterfall knobs, for ashtray and glovebox (for coupe)
All knobs are ivory |
1954 Dash
>Single piece screen
>In-line door handles
>Flat door panel pull handles
>Waterfall ashtray & glovebox handles until Feb 54 tbc…from there on, Lozenger style
>Opposing wipers until April 54…from there on, parallel wipers
>Painted metal doortops
>VDM 2-spoke wheel (from April 54, now Beige or Grey, not Ivory)
>New ‘Porsche-own’ knob style from April 54 (Beige or Grey)
>Ivory push button starter also goes from Ivory to Beige or Grey (April 54)
>Initially 3-gauge dash…no fuel gauge
>June 54, VDM fuel gauge (hooded) added far left…so now twin small dials to left of speedo…’4-gauge dash’
>Grab handle introduced far right, June 54 tbc
>Veigel gauges until June 54…from there on, VDM gauges
>Dual needle oil temp gauge
>From mid-54, oil temp gauge gained a hood (no hood before this)
>Steering column indicator arm (Black)
>Small door pocket
>Longer, cranked gearstick
>”Ashtray double switch” until Jan/Feb 55…then single switch
>Map light above ashtray on Cabriolets
>Mid 54, instrument lights now controlled by twisting the light switch (dimmable)…so separate instrument light switch is dropped
>From May 54, centre pod blanking plate now with two horizontal ribs & a Porsche script
Body clue: Grilled front indicators, short bonnet/hood handle
| James Davies wrote: |
Wipers
Opposing wipers were used up through through coupe 52029, which was about the end of April 1954. From 52030 onward, wipers were parallel with articulated blades that were supposed to follow the shape of the windshield, even the bend. Sometimes they didn't. This was a cost saving measure so as to not need separate R and L wiper arms/blades. Parallel wipers use the same arms and are not handed. |
1955 Dash
Until Sept ‘55
>Single piece screen
>In-line door handles
>Flat door panel pull handles
>Parallel wipers
>Painted metal doortops
>VDM 2-spoke wheel
>Lozenger ashtray & glovebox handles
>New knob style (Porsche own)
>Steering column indicator arm (Black)
>Grab handle far right
>”Ashtray single switch”…a single switch below the ashtray for the autofume cigar lighter
>Heater pull knob (left, under ashtray) relocated to the floor Jan/Feb 55
>VDM fuel gauge far left (4-gauge dash)
>VDM gauges
>Small door pocket
>Longer, cranked gearstick
>Map light above ashtray on Cabriolets
Body clue: Long bonnet/hood handle, grilled front indicators
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| Posted: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:00 am Post subject: Radios |
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Acceptable radios for your Pre-A!
There were numerous similar-looking pod radios available for your Pre-A. The Telefunken ID52 is a popular choice. Radios marked with a * are known to have been installed back in the day. When retro-fitting, some owners like to dovetail the radio with their Pre-A year. Or just go with whichever radio takes your fancy - if you can find it! I think it’s cool to see the lesser-seen radios installed. Which is your favourite? Only a few Pre-As appear to run with a blank centre pod (ie without a radio).
Please chime in if you have a period picture that shows a radio installed, or if you know what radio your Pre-A had back in the day.
*Telefunken IA50/IA51
Pod style
Lightning radio
Good for the 2-piece screen cars, pre-52 (offset wiper motor)
But too boxy for the >53 (fouls central wiper motor)
Available 1949-1951
*Telefunken ID51/ID52
Pod style
Vertical push button
Factory installed 1952-July53?
Available 1951-1953
Telefunken ID53
Oblong style
With speaker faceplate
Speaker above radio
Factory installed Aug53-55?
Available 1953-1955
*Telefunken ID54
Oblong style
Looks very similar to the ID53
With speaker faceplate
Speaker above radio
Available 1953-1957
Loewe-Opta (Löwe) 5651
Pod style
Available 1949-1951
*Blaupunkt AutoSuper A610B / A51L / A51EM
Pod style
Concentric circle design
The earliest A610B has the multi knobs behind the main knobs, and 3 dots on the faceplate above each main knob
The 1953 A51L also has the multi knobs, no dots
A51EM, no multi knobs
Factory installed radio in 1953
1950-1955?
Blaupunkt Frankfurt tbc
Oblong style
With speaker faceplate
Radio is installed above the speaker
Factory installed radio, 1954/55?
*Becker Mexico
First in-car radio with fully automatic FM station scan
Becker Monte Carlo
Chrome & no lower knobs
1953
Becker Monza
Pod style
(version without clock)
Did this fit?
1953
Schaub/Lorenz Autolor 1B12
*Philips NX624V
Uncommon
Expensive back in the day
1952-1954
Wendel & Goltermann
German make
Without buttons
Uncommon
Without buttons
W&G radios were expensive back in the day.
They were also known for PA systems and radios for Tour Buses.
See:
http://antique-autoradio-madness.org/Zicade/Zicade_def.htm
Wendel & Goltermann Zicade
With buttons
Uncommon
Unacceptable Radios!
Philips Elomar
For Beetle
Too big
Becker Monza
Clock version
Doesn’t fit
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:36 am Post subject: Naked Dashes / Chassis Stamp / RHD Dash |
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Naked Dashes
Prototype?
The boys
1950 into 1951?
Main fingerprint:
>Metal glovebox
Example 1
Example 2
1953
L273 Beige Metallic
Map light hole above ashtray
Cabriolet
1955
Main fingerprints:
>Twin small hole, far left (accommodates new fuel gauge)
>Grab handle hole to right of glovebox
Example 1
Late 54/early 55 due to Ashtray area double hole
Example 2
Late 54/early 55 due to Ashtray area double hole
Chassis Number Stamp
| James Davies wrote: |
The last 2 digits of the chassis number (are) stamped on the inside bottom center of the dashboard, just below the radio on the inside.
If '52 is like '53, then it will have original paint on the back, and may also be marked with yellow grease pencil the last 2 digits of chassis number |
Example 1 (on a 55)
RHD Dashes
For RHD dashes, the factory took a LHD dash and cut/swapped the left and right hand wings over. They did this until the introduction of the 356B. As you can see, they have to make various other mods too…labour intensive! Follow the weld lines.
Note the metal glovebox…dropped for 52 on The LHD dash…but thought to live on throughout Pre-A production on the RHD dashes. This is a late ‘54/early ‘55 dash.
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:38 am Post subject: Paint |
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Paint
After initial painting in the body colour, it appears the dashes on the lighter colour cars received a darker, complimentary colour dash. This may have been to reduce reflected glare in the windscreen. Some restored cars have lost this cool detail, with the dash incorrectly repainted the body colour.
The dark colour chosen for the dashtop complimented the interior colour…a warm colour for warm colour interiors (ie reds), a cooler colour for cool interiors (ie blues)
If anyone has a picture showing an original paint dash on an original paint car, please post it up!
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| If…a light-colored car, they often painted the front of the dash a 2nd coat of paint that was darker and complemented the interior color. So a mode grey car would have got a dark blue dash, or an ivory car a maroon dash. But the backs should be body color with some overspray from the front. The primer on the early cars was an iron oxide primer - the color of rust |
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The standard dash colors in 1954 were:
R501 Black - for black cars
R538 Turkish red - for Turkish red cars
R537 Graphite metallic - for Graphite metallic cars
R542 Dark beige - for Ivory cars
R536 Jade green metallic - for Jade green cars
R543 Dark silver - for Silver metallic cars
R532 Dark grey - for Pearl grey cars
R522 Azure blue - for Azure blue cars
R533 Terracotta - for Terracotta cars |
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Dark Blue - for Mode Grey car
Maroon - for Ivory car |
Dash Paint Codes
Maroon 503
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:39 am Post subject: Detail Pictures |
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Detail Pictures
Reproduction Knob Set
Pre-April 54
Waterfall Handle
50-54
Lever Light Switch
50-51
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:41 am Post subject: Dash Examples A B C |
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Dash Examples
Starting here, I intend to 3 dash examples per post - maybe summarising the main features.
The intention is for each car to appear only once.
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Single piece screen
Telefunken ID52
Early VDM 3-spoke wheel
Indicator arm
Locking glovebox (and tonneau studs) and map light above ashtray so cabriolet
Parallel wipers (incorrect)
Triple ashtray switch
In-line door handles
Leatherette map pockets
Interim bumpers
Rectangular brakelights
‘52
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Telefunken ID52
Late VDM 2-spoke with painted half horn-ring
Indicator arm
Fuel gauge far left
Grab handle
Lozenger handles
Parallel wipers
Small door pocket
Twin ashtray switches
Late ‘54 / early ‘55
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Blaupunkt radio
I say ditch the wheel 😉
Indicator arm
Fuel gauge far left
Grab handle
Lozenger handles
Parallel wipers
Small door pocket
Twin ashtray switches
Late ‘54 / early 55
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| Posted: Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:42 am Post subject: Examples D E F |
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Clock not tacho
2-gauge dash (no oil temp gauge)
Lever light switch in 3-row formation
Telefunken IA50
3-spoke VDM wheel
Forward indicator switch
Opposing wipers
Wooden doortops
Offset door handles
2-piece screen
‘50 or early ‘51 tbc
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Telefunken ID52
2-spoke VDM wheel
Indicator arm
Locking glovebox and map light above ashtray so cabriolet
Opposing wipers
No door pockets
‘53 tbc
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Unknown radio (sloping knobs…Blaupunkt?)
2-spoke VDM wheel
Rearward indicator switch
Locking glovebox and map light above ashtray so cabriolet
Lozenger ashtray handle
No hood on oil temp gauge
Early ‘54 tbc
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Clock not tacho
3-gauge dash (with oil temp gauge)
Loewe-Opta (Löwe) 5651 radio (1949-1951)
VDM 3-spoke wheel
Forward indicator switch
Wood doortops/offset handles/2-piece screen
Opposing wipers
Large door pocket (to forward corner)
‘51
H
Telefunken ID53 or ID54 Radio
VDM 2-spoke wheel
Indicator arm
No door pockets
Opposing wipers
‘53
I
1954-55 blank centre pod
VDM 2-spoke wheel
Indicator arm
No door pockets
Mixed Waterfall & Lozenger handles (incorrect)
Opposing wipers
‘53
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Clock not tacho
3-gauge dash (no oil temp gauge)
Offset door handles
Wooden doortops
3-spoke VDM wheel
Forward indicator switch
Grundig speaker and under-dash radio?
Grab handle is a ‘55 feature
The later Lozenger ashtray and glovebox handles are incorrect
‘51
K
Beautiful colours
1950-54 blank centre pod
‘2-tone’ dash
No door pockets
2-spoke VDM wheel
Indicator arm
Glovebox lock and map light above ashtray for a Cabriolet
Standard pre-52 centre pod blank?
‘53 tbc
L
UK rhd Cabriolet
No door pockets
Telefunken ID53 or ID54 radio (added by current owner)
Glovebox lock and map light above ashtray
Inverted ashtray waterfall handle
2-spoke VDM wheel with half-ring
Indicator arm
Oil temp gauge hood is an addition
B/W picture is the car in the 60s! Note late bonnet handle, incorrect indicators…
‘53 (C)
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| Had a big smash in the late '50s which was repaired with an "A" nose and wing |
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Single screen
Opposing wipers
Accessory fuel gauge far left?
Waterfall ashtray knob
Locking glovebox and map light above ashtray so Cabriolet
Indicator arm
2-spoke VDM wheel
No door pockets
Telefunken ID52 radio
Late ‘53/very early ‘54 tbc
N
1955 LHD Continental Coupe, converted to RHD
Single screen
Twin small dials right…fuel gauge
Waterfall knobs are incorrect (earlier)…should be Lozenger
Parallel wipers
Single hole below ashtray
Indicator arm
2-spoke VDM wheel with full horn ring
Telefunken ID53 or ID54 radio
‘55
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Single screen
Opposing wipers
Waterfall ashtray knob
2-spoke VDM wheel
Telefunken ID52 radio
Late ‘53/very early 54 tbc
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Clock not tacho
2-gauge dash (no oil temp gauge)
Lever light switch in 3-row formation
2-piece screen
Opposing wipers
Forward indicator switch
3-spoke VDM wheel
Waterfall ashtray knob
Locking glovebox so Cabriolet
No map light above ashtray so pre ch.10271
Large door pockets
Painted doortops…?
Offset door handles
Telefunken IA50 radio
‘50 or early ‘51?
Q
2-piece screen
Forward indicator switch
3-spoke VDM wheel with full horn-ring
Waterfall ashtray knob
Early knobs
Large door pockets
Telefunken ID52 radio
Looks good, doesn’t it?
‘51?
R
2-piece screen
Opposing wipers
Forward indicator switch
3-spoke VDM wheel with full horn-ring
Waterfall ashtray knob
Locking glovebox so Cabriolet 😉
No map light above ashtray so pre ch.10271
Large door pockets
Wooden doortops
Offset door handles
Telefunken ID52 radio
‘51?
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Fuel gauge
Grab handle
‘55
T
Fuel gauge
Grab handle
Late ‘54/55 Coupe
U
Fuel gauge
Grab handle
Earlier wheel (incorrect)
Earlier waterfall glovebox handle (incorrect)
Late ‘54 / early ‘55
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1950-54 blank centre pod
Single screen
Opposing wipers
2-spoke VDM wheel
Inverted waterfall knobs
Indicator arm
No door pockets
‘53 tbc
W
Wooden doortops
3-gauge dash
Tacho
No ashtray
‘51?
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2-piece screen (<April 52)
Opposing wipers
2-tone dash
1950-53 blank centre pod
Indicator arm
Indicators below headlights (>53)…?
‘52 tbc
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Fuel gauge
Grab handle
Lozenger handles
Small door pockets
Single switch below ashtray
Looks like a Telefunken ID53 or ID54 radio
‘55
Z
Fuel gauge
Grab handle
Lozenger handles
Single switch below ashtray
Accessory clock on glovebox
Small door pockets
‘55
A1
Opposing wipers (<April 54)
Single screen
Lozenger handles (>Feb 54)
Telefunken ID52 radio
Early ‘54
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B1
Inverted waterfall ashtray handle
Later 2-spoke VDM wheel
Forward indicator switch
3-gauge dash
Lever light switch in the triangular formation
May '51
C1
To me, that centre pod is upside down
Dummy gauge should be to the top of the pod
Willi Schmidt car
‘53 (C)
D1
VIN 11506
‘52
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E1
Cabriolet
Grab handle
Fuel gauge
Grey wheel
2-tone dash
Small door pockets
Parallel wipers
Blaupunkt radio?
Twin ashtray switches
Late ‘54 / early ‘55
F1
Cabriolet
2-tone dash
No door pockets
Opposing wipers
1950-54 blank centre pod
‘53
G1
Coupe
Grab handle
Fuel gauge
Grey wheel
Telefunken ID53 or ID54 radio
Small door pockets
Parallel wipers
‘55
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RockStock
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| Posted: Fri Nov 26, 2021 4:10 pm Post subject: H1 I1 J1 |
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H1
Reuter Cabriolet
Lockable glovebox and map light hole
Accessory glovebox clock
Blaupunkt AutoSuper radio
‘53
I1
Period picture, so it can be trusted
Cabriolet
Single screen
Parallel wipers
Lozenger ashtray handle
Ashtray double switch
Lockable glovebox
Map light
No door pockets
Becker Mexico radio
No fuel gauge or grab handle
Beige or Grey wheel
‘54
J1
Period picture, so it can be trusted
Single screen
Opposing wipers
Indicator arm
Ashtray triple switch
Telefunken ID52 radio
2-spoke VDM wheel
Large door pockets
Oct 52 tbc
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| Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:50 am Post subject: K1 L1 M1 |
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K1
Telefunken ID53 radio
‘54 (C)
L1
Same dash…now with the Ivory wheel
Telefunken ID52 radio
‘55
M1
Blaupunkt radio
‘55
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