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firerod Samba Member
Joined: September 01, 2014 Posts: 33 Location: United States
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:59 am Post subject: Swing-axle lift |
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I have a '68 Convertible bug I was thinking about lifting approx. 2". Does anyone have a picture of a swing-axle bug that has been lifted like Jeff Hibbard's Baja book says with covering 1/2 the bolt hole with the spring plate? I would like to see how much this effects the wheel camber. Thank you. |
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earthquake Samba Member
Joined: January 10, 2008 Posts: 3984 Location: SANDY VALLEY, NEVADA
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 12:27 pm Post subject: Re: Swing-axle lift |
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Every thing I have seen on raising a Swing axel you should put a 1/4" spacer on the bottom stop so the spring plate cant drop all the way down in the housing and create too much positive camber. If I was doing a swing axle I would go with Bus reduction boxes, it will also give a lower gear for bigger tires.
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Dale M. Samba Member
Joined: April 12, 2006 Posts: 20365 Location: Just a tiny bit west of Yosemite Valley
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Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 1:30 pm Post subject: Re: Swing-axle lift |
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Use chart below and same numbers but turn bars other direction to raise...
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12632 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 4:49 am Post subject: Re: Swing-axle lift |
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Any increase in static ride height will increase your positive camber an a swing axle. This will also increase your chances of a roll over. There is no way around that fact. Tire selection can help, the old square tread wide oval bias ply tires are the worst as they have a sharp edge on the outer extremes that bit hard and facilitate rear jacking and roll over. Thank goodness you can't buy them anymore! The old off road guys used aircraft tires or implement tires because of the rounded tread design. I use quad tires for the same reason. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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Mylastbeetle Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2019 Posts: 12 Location: Tampa, Fl
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 9:49 am Post subject: Re: Swing-axle lift |
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I am trying to figure out how to give my 67 Beetle a Class 11 look without making it dangerous. Does anybody know how much positive camber is acceptable, and how much is dangerous?
Was also thinking of trimming the arch of a set of fenders (not the ones on it) to clear a slightly larger tire without rubbing or looking stupid.
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Mal evolent Samba Member
Joined: March 31, 2009 Posts: 2912 Location: San Antonio, Nuevo Mexico
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Posted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 11:23 am Post subject: Re: Swing-axle lift |
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a second consideration, in addition to making the car a roll-o-matic: you need rear tires that are round in cross-section. raise the car, increase the camber, a square edged tire with flat tread will be running on the edge of the tread. minimal rubber on the road, maximum wear on the skinny little square edge.
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12632 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:06 am Post subject: Re: Swing-axle lift |
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Switch to IRS and raise it all you want. Or - if it is just the look you want, do a body lift, taller tires and leave the suspension as is.
For best handling and safety at highway speeds you want a degree or two of negative camber. Zero is ok but you do not want to go more than a degree positive. Even at that you need to limit down travel to prevent jacking.
If the car is off road, dirt only at low speeds, never sees 50 mph you can get away with more positive camber but beware the downhill sharp turn with the brakes on. It will turn turtle! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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