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VDUB2359 Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2015 Posts: 5 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 3:47 pm Post subject: VW Deck Lid |
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Is there a feasible way to replace a stock 1963 VW Beetle Deck Lid with one of the new aftermarket "W" style lids available? Does anyone have any recommendations on a lid supplier? The typical fail point of the spring and hinge supports has launched me in this direction. Rather than spending time repairing the 60 year old metal I may consider a replacement. I do like the look of the early "W" design. Thanks! |
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26300 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:07 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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personally, I think that seeing a "W" lid on a 60s Beetle looks totally wrong. It does fit, which I think is what you're asking about.
But it's not like I don't have an incorrect decklid on my 62, but it's not W-istic, no, I put a 60's convertible lid on there. _________________ Andy T.
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007 Posts: 11053 Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:27 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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Got to disagree with glutamodo on this one.. .. may be the first time.. Sorry Andy..
The W decklid is the best looking of the bunch..
As for feasible.. its a paint .. and bolt and go..
Cant get much simper than that..
IMO the latest version with OUT the Pope's nose. (56-57).. and the similar to 58-63 license lamp.. looks the best.
Not many aftermarket suppliers.. so pick your poison on those. .. I hear .. they are not too bad..
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bluebus86 Banned
Joined: September 02, 2010 Posts: 11075
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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VDUB2359 wrote: |
Is there a feasible way to replace a stock 1963 VW Beetle Deck Lid with one of the new aftermarket "W" style lids available? Does anyone have any recommendations on a lid supplier? The typical fail point of the spring and hinge supports has launched me in this direction. Rather than spending time repairing the 60 year old metal I may consider a replacement. I do like the look of the early "W" design. Thanks! |
the hinges are high stress points, more so with the spring, the spring can be removed, and you use a prop stick to hold the lid. You are better off with metal, source a decent used one is my recommendation, unless you cannot afford it. they are rarish. or go for a correct year metal lid, much less money.
Scores of later lids for sale cheap...
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php...amp;page=2
a good deal of W lids for sale, maybe a lot of dreams here? cheapest by far is 400 bucks, half the price of some others.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php...ywords=lid
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glutamodo The Android
Joined: July 13, 2004 Posts: 26300 Location: Douglas, WY
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 4:55 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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VOLKSWAGNUT wrote: |
Got to disagree with glutamodo on this one.. .. may be the first time.. Sorry Andy..
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No problem man. Once upon a time I might have agreed with you.
And it makes no sense really, as even on the Ovals, the W-lid does not "flow" the way it did into the split window. So why does it look less right on bigwindows? Not sure, but when I've seen them, they just look "ungood" to me. _________________ Andy T.
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
Joined: October 14, 2007 Posts: 11053 Location: Flippin' a Belt........ .... Off-n-On ... NC USA
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:07 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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glutamodo wrote: |
No problem man. Once upon a time I might have agreed with you.
And it makes no sense really, as even on the Ovals, the W-lid does not "flow" the way it did into the split window. So why does it look less right on bigwindows? Not sure, but when I've seen them, they just look "ungood" to me. |
Hmmmm .. once upon a time.. (ouch).. I only wish I could live in a fairy tale land.. some days..
W lid.. yeah.. may look a little odd on the "big window" 58-64.. maybe just because we know better..
.. but the W lid is just plain ole' .. kool ..
Id run one.. .. .. but I usually have a few decklids painted and ready to swap out .. on a seasonal whim.. and what I feel..
. _________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
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glutamodo The Android
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:26 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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I'd probably run one if it had the extra convertible vents, which I always thought were cool no matter what year. (but then, it was not ergonomics that led me to put the 60s 'vert lid on mine, it was rather more in hopes of better engine cooling, alas it made not a frigging iota of difference) _________________ Andy T.
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:01 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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For some strange reason nobody has been successful getting a 60's-era paint code color to stick on the w decklids... Not sure why.. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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VDUB2359 Samba Member
Joined: November 17, 2015 Posts: 5 Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:35 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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Thank you for all of the input and the resources. It's good to know that if I decide to change it the lid will fit without a hassle. I realize that everyone has their own feelings with the lids but it's nice to know we all have the same passion for the beetles no matter what. My VW is quite a hybrid so there are always mixed feelings from everyone. Thanks again. |
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Rome Samba Member
Joined: June 02, 2004 Posts: 9603 Location: Pearl River, NY
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Posted: Sun Feb 25, 2018 7:57 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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The W decklid can be a subtle change. This very nicely done '63 was in front of me for several miles during part of the 2017 Classic VW Bugs' Foliage Tour in southern NY.
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Bonkulous Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2020 Posts: 7 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Fri Oct 29, 2021 11:36 am Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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SO - original is better than aftermarket. Got it! As the ol saying goes - you get what you pay for.
I see in this thread the '63 is sporting a "W" deck lid.
Is this just a simple bolt-on installation, or is more modification than that required? Does the lid seal properly? Does the latch line up or do you need to replace parts their, too?
I figure the 55-57 lid might just be a bolt-on...
Knowing how VW rarely ever made things non-interchangable in those early years, it seemed only natural to think it would simply be a bolt on installation.
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VOLKSWAGNUT Fastest VW Belt Changer
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Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 2:10 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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Bonkulous wrote: |
lid.
Is this just a simple bolt-on installation, or is more modification than that required? Does the lid seal properly? Does the latch line up or do you need to replace parts their, too? |
Bolt and go..
. _________________ aka Ken {o\!/o}
Its your vehicle- stop askin' for approval-do what YOU like for cryin' out loud
Better to roll em' how you want and wear em' out-than lettin' em' rot out
Its about the going not the showing
Rebuilt to drive not decorate
WANTED: Local Eatin' Joints, Triple D for TheSamba contributions here http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=570510
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Bonkulous Samba Member
Joined: August 29, 2020 Posts: 7 Location: TEXAS
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Posted: Mon May 23, 2022 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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Thanks for the affirmation. Wolfsburg West told me it wouldn't fit. |
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hitest Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2008 Posts: 10296 Location: Prime Meridian, ID
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: VW Deck Lid |
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Bonkulous wrote: |
Thanks for the affirmation. Wolfsburg West told me it wouldn't fit. |
They answered based on taste. _________________
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I wonder what the nut looks like.
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'62 L390 151, '62 L469 117, '63 L380 113, '64 L87 311, '65 L512 265, '65 L31 SO-42, '66 L360 251, '68 L30k 141, '71 L12 113, '74 ORG 181
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