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PostPosted: Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:51 am    Post subject: Dash Thread Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:00 am    Post subject: N1 O1 P1 Reply with quote

N1
Clock not tacho
Light switch in 3-row formation tbc
2-gauge dash tbc
2-piece screen
Offset door handles
Wooden doortops
Forward indicator switch
Blaupunkt AutoSuper radio
‘50 or early ‘51

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O1
Indicator arm
In-line door handles
Large door pockets
Inverted waterfall handles
Custom dashtop
Telefunken ID52 radio
2-tone dash (Maroon?)
‘52 tbc

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P1
Becker Mexico radio
Map light & glovebox lock so Cabriolet
‘53/‘54

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 4:00 am    Post subject: Q1 R1 S1 Reply with quote

Q1
Fuel gauge
Grab handle
Map light
Lockable glovebox
Parallel wipers
Single ashtray switch
Telefunken ID53 or ID54 radio
‘55

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R1
2-piece screen
Offset door handles
Tacho mimics clock
Wooden doortops
Forward indicator switch
Blaupunkt AutoSuper radio
Bench seat
‘51 tbc

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S1
Clock
2-piece screen
Forward indicator switch
Telefunken ID52 radio
‘51 tbc

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:04 am    Post subject: T1 U1 V1 Reply with quote

T1
Cabriolet
Telefunken ID53 or ID54 radio
‘53 (C)

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U1
Period picture so can be trusted
Philips NX624V radio
Fuel gauge
Map light and lockable glovebox, so Cabriolet
Later ‘54/‘55

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V1
Telefunken ID52 radio
Cabriolet
Later ‘54 (C)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:13 am    Post subject: W1 X1 Y1 Reply with quote

W1
Telefunken ID54 radio
Coupe
‘53 (C)

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X1
‘52 (C)

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Y1
Clock
Lever light switch in 3-row formation…but…oil temp gauge added, so wiper & interior light switch relocated below
Cabriolet but no Map light
Accessory glovebox door stopwatch? Or ?
‘50 (C)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:37 am    Post subject: Z1 A2 B2 Reply with quote

Z1
Wendel & Goltermann Zicade radio
Lozenger handles (incorrect)
Indicator arm (later)
In-line door handles…
Small door pockets (incorrect)
Later dials
Ashtray double switch (later)
Coupe is at the Porsche Museum
In-line front indicators (incorrect)
Something weird going on! Later dash in an earlier car?
‘50?
‘52?

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A2
Cabriolet
Opposing wipers…?
Lozenger ashtray handle
Ashtray single switch
Fuel gauge
Telefunken ID53 or ID54 radio
‘54 (C)…but ashtray single switch?

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B2
Telefunken IA50 radio
Ch.5014
14th car…
Used to have a VDM/Pealit ‘Superb’ accessory steering wheel
Coupe is at the Porsche Museum
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=498625
‘50

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Porsche 356 Pre-A Dash & Radio Thread Reply with quote

For your viewing displeasure.
Wrong on so many levels…spare dash for 1953 coupe
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5006, Prototyp Museum, Germany
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Prototyp? Windhund…..

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All are nice examples….
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:29 am    Post subject: C1 D1 E1 Reply with quote

Thank you for the contribution, Al!
Cool pictures.

C1
VIN 5006
Prototyp Museum, Germany
‘50

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D1
Prototyp?
Clock
2-gauge dash
Lever light switch in row formation
Map light (?) below ashtray
Telefunken IA50 radio
Downturned smile
3pm
‘50

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E1
Clock
Looks to me like it was originally a 2-gauge dash, but accessory oil temp switch added (dull ring) so light switch (pull) relocated above?
Accessory grab handle
Forward indicator switch AND indicator arm
Map light (?) below ashtray
Offset door handles
Wooden doortops
‘50 tbc

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 29, 2021 3:33 am    Post subject: F1 G1 H1 Reply with quote

F1
Clock
2-gauge dash
Lever light switch in row formation
Wooden dash tops
Telefunken IA50 radio
Large logo Sekurit
Getting the idea? Smile
‘50 tbc

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G1

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H1

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:36 pm    Post subject: I1 J1 K1 Reply with quote

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J1

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K1

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 3:38 pm    Post subject: L1 M1 N1 Reply with quote

L1

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M1

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2021 7:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Porsche 356 Pre-A Dash & Radio Thread Reply with quote

Back of dash…
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Radio mounting same as split VW.
Incorrect “bullet” connection for cigar lighter. Hack job wiring for radio amplifier done in the 1980s; radio still works. Note the “notch” to clear windshield divider on upper dash sheet metal.
The dash is mounted in a January 1953 coupe…..very incorrect.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: Porsche 356 Pre-A Dash & Radio Thread Reply with quote

Thanks Al; exactly the type of post I’d like to see on here. I’m a non-Porsche owner (I do have a Barndoor, and a couple of Lowlight Ghias)…just a long term admirer of the Pre-As, with very little related knowledge. So the details you mention are all interesting to me.

What radio is that? It’s one of the bulky ones. Interested to know about the clearance with the wiper motor etc. I see some radio faceplates are notched, which I’ll be adding to the Radio section on p1. Also interesting to see the dash furniture bracket design compared to a VW.

So the notch means the dash is from a pre April 52 car, right…
Are you still doing your 4-digit car?

I have a few more dash examples to post up - and I intend to add a few notes for each one - but (anyone) please fell feel free to post up your photos or comments. I’m not worried about the structure and uniformity of the thread being upset.

I’d really like to see some more period pictures showing a radio installed in a Pre-A.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:30 pm    Post subject: Re: K1 L1 M1 Reply with quote

RockStock wrote:

L1
Same dash…now with the Ivory wheel
Telefunken ID52 radio
‘55

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Since this is mine, I'll chime in about it. It's a '55 Continental and I am sorting through the "incorrect" bits and trying to get period or year-specific components. The radio is the older style ID52 and I am on the hunt for either a Blaupunkt or Telefunken with the horizontal row of push buttons for 54/55. The steering wheel with full horn ring is a 420mm and greyish hue. I finally found a very nice 400mm and had Koch's refinish it (but the spokes are the original brushed finish), along with painting the 1/3 horn ring in ivory that matches all the knobs and escutcheons. The steering column should be black but it does have a red-tip turn signal stalk that works. In the photo below that shows a different angle of the dash, you can see the improper ignition switch. I got lucky and found a proper NOS switch for late '54/early '55 in Poland. It's a proper "C" code key (two keys, both stamped with the key code.) Those with a really keen eye will note the opposing wipers are not correct for my April '55 car. Not sure why they are not parallel, as they should be, since this was done during its restoration (apparently) in 1987.

BTW, this is a very interesting topic that notes little changes to dashes (switches, gauges, etc.) throughout the Pre-A years. With the exception of the radio that's a few years older than the car and the steering column needing to be painted black, I think I've made some decent progress on getting it proper.

When I got the car:

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As it is now: The second photo in the quote above (note: the NOS ignition switch is shown in both of the quote pics)
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Porsche 356 Pre-A Dash & Radio Thread Reply with quote

thank you for posting all these reference pics, glad i found them i can now add some details to the dash i made for my 356 restoration build
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