Can't Order Birth Certificate, is engine original?

[Kyler]

I have a 1965 Beetle that I would like to get the birth certificate of. However, going onto this site: https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.com/en_us/service/certificate-data-sheets.html

I am unable to order one. It looks like they will not ship outside of Europe (I'm from the US). All I really want to find out is if the 40 horse motor that came with it is original. Is there at least a way I could find that out?

[Pruneman99]

Idk about the certificate, but you can check your engine number here under the technical tab. It will open to type II, so select the type I tab.

It will give you the engine range dates and you can compare that to your car manufacturing date.

[Nate RS]

I got one in August. It worked then. $75 and it showed up 4 weeks later. In Connecticut.

[ashman40]

[lardawge]

No issue ordering one. Added it to the cart with a US address. However, the price did go up significantly since I ordered one last year.
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[matthew henricks]

The birth Cert is the only think they will ship outside the USA. But as pointed out. Expensive. $100 i think.
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[lardawge]

[1965_Beetle]

I personally think that all of these lists are just estimates. I have a 1965 beetle which has always been in the family and I know that it is still the original engine. My chassis number is 115 120 745 and my engine number is 8220531. That means that my 1965 was built with a 1964 chassis and a 1963 engine. All the other components are true to 1965 however.
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1965 Beetle

[Teeroy]

115 is a 65 chassis not a 64. Anything built from Aug 64 is a 65 if you are going by build month. A 64 chassis will still have the old VIN sequence. Your engine number appears to be Dec 63, no likely to be original to car.
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[1965_Beetle]

Like I said, unless the dealer swapped the engine prior to my family buying new, the engine is original to the car.
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[viiking]

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[Jos.Hall]

If it was swapped at the dealership then the Volkswagen museum will NOT confirm that the engine is correct to the car nor will they tell you the original engine that the car left the factory with.
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[1965_Beetle]

Interesting theories and all could be plausible. My grandmother originally purchased the car in 1964 as a 1965 model (I wish I had the original paperwork). It was purchased from Mill Valley Volkswagen (in California) from sales representative Ted Von Reitzenstein. In her roughly 40,000 miles of driving, she only did basic maintenance (oil changes) and several trips to body shops as she liked tapping the fenders on things. I came into possession of the car in 1976 where I took over all maintenance items myself. I then parked the car in the garage around 1983 and it has been garage kept ever since.

I also own a 1967 MGB GT. I also am convinced it has the original engine just by looking at the engine bay but have no proof. The English kept terrible records so I don't believe anyone could prove one way or another. I always thought that the German's kept much better records. I really like the "Warum ist das hier" theory!
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-David
1965 Beetle

[hitest]

822... is not a '63 engine, it was built in Dec. '63 for the '64 model year already months in production. But since VW operated with notoriously better inventory control- I highly doubt it's OG to a '65 anything. MOST engines are installed within a couple weeks of the car's production.
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[1965_Beetle]

Thank you for all your responses regarding my misfit engine….especially to the stubborn one’s that insisted it was wrong! You all got me to really clear some memory dust on this one, and then it finally dawned on me. Back when I was young and dumb in high school (late 70’s) and in an effort to get the old beetle all cleaned up, I pulled the engine out myself. I had heard of a friend of a friend who was really good at re-building VW engines. I took the long block to him and he was to install a 1385cc kit as well as balance the rebuild. I remember him asking me if I wanted to go with dual port heads as to really feel the increased displacement but I opted for retaining the single port heads for originality. Upon picking up the rebuilt engine from him, I recall him also saying to me that my engine didn’t even need the rebuild. I knew he was probably correct as it had only 80,390-miles on it. After reinstalling the engine, I do remember enjoying the little extra power I had achieved. However, shortly after only adding just over 3k miles to it, it ended up getting garaged for the next 40-years. That was where the exchange must have happened. As upsetting as this is to me now, I am now left with the option of keeping the old engine with original looks, or upgrading to more of a performance engine. Thanks again everyone and Happy Thanksgiving.
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1965 Beetle

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