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milimao Samba Member
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oprn Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:30 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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I have found it to be completely unnecessary when you have proper air filters and a good fuel filter. Three years of running now and not once have I needed to clean any jets. Fix the problem at the source. _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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Lingwendil Samba Member
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j-dub Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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These would be handy for sure! _________________ 1957 Oval rag
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Dale M. Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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"Jet Doctors" seem to solve the problem and probably less expensive...
https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/7557.htm
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QRP Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2008 Posts: 1710 Location: NORTH HOLLYWOOD,CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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Lingwendil wrote: |
60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top.
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO it's the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ????
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KEGZ Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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QRP wrote: |
Lingwendil wrote: |
60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top.
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ???? |
IDF idle jets are on the side (diaphragm). Not on top. The air corrector, emulsion tube, and main jet along with the "holder" is on top. |
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QRP Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2008 Posts: 1710 Location: NORTH HOLLYWOOD,CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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KEGZ wrote: |
QRP wrote: |
Lingwendil wrote: |
60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top.
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ???? |
IDF idle jets are on the side (diaphragm). Not on top. The air corrector, emulsion tube, and main jet along with the "holder" is on top. |
YES I KNOW THAT !!! did you read what the entire paragraph??? |
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KEGZ Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2021 Posts: 288 Location: Whales Vagina
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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QRP wrote: |
KEGZ wrote: |
QRP wrote: |
Lingwendil wrote: |
60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top.
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ???? |
IDF idle jets are on the side (diaphragm). Not on top. The air corrector, emulsion tube, and main jet along with the "holder" is on top. |
YES I KNOW THAT !!! did you read what the entire paragraph??? |
Oh, my. bad! lol. Staring at code all morning has mushed my brain.. |
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Lingwendil Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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KEGZ wrote: |
QRP wrote: |
Lingwendil wrote: |
60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top.
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ???? |
IDF idle jets are on the side (diaphragm). Not on top. The air corrector, emulsion tube, and main jet along with the "holder" is on top. |
Some are different- this is the setup all the chinese factories should be copying-
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Apologies for the slow reply! time difference and shift working patterns tend to interfere with important stuff I thought I would post some pictures so you can see what we're dealing with. they have 5 transfer ports , but am not sure where to measure for idle air bleed size? excuse my ignorance
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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In general to keep your carbs clean, besides a good set of air filters, running your engine dry of fuel if the car if it is not going to be used for more then a few days. Actually like myself, some guys on this forum do it all the time..
I know that is a problem for guys with mechanical pumps, unless you use a hand turn-off valve on a fuel line. _________________ email: [email protected]
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QRP Samba Member
Joined: April 27, 2008 Posts: 1710 Location: NORTH HOLLYWOOD,CA
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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Lingwendil wrote: |
KEGZ wrote: |
QRP wrote: |
Lingwendil wrote: |
60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top.
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ???? |
IDF idle jets are on the side (diaphragm). Not on top. The air corrector, emulsion tube, and main jet along with the "holder" is on top. |
Some are different- this is the setup all the chinese factories should be copying-
MARKYSTEW wrote: |
Apologies for the slow reply! time difference and shift working patterns tend to interfere with important stuff I thought I would post some pictures so you can see what we're dealing with. they have 5 transfer ports , but am not sure where to measure for idle air bleed size? excuse my ignorance
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Thread here-
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=535498&start=0 |
I agree with you 100% that the CHI-DFs should've copied this idle circuit.
It would be a game changer.
I wonder if its possible to modify a standard IDF to this configuration?? |
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APPLEGREENVW Samba Member
Joined: November 30, 2003 Posts: 2387 Location: Seekonk,Massachusetts USA
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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[quote="Lingwendil"] this is the setup all the chinese factories should be copying.
Maybe the Chinese factories didn't know these IDF's setup were available to copy from. Someone needs to send Empi a request. _________________ Parts for sale https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/search.php?username=APPLEGREENVW
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jbbugs Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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Along with good, clean filters-I've found that smearing some grease on the base of the air cleaner element before you place it on to the base helps prevent clogged idle jets. _________________ Drag bus! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2MOVmKdhX4
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modok Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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They copied the wrong 40 DRLA too.
One set for sale in Croatia currently, on ebay, but too clean looking for my taste.
I prefer when they are covered in grime straight from the junkyard, cables and hoses cut and hanging off.
You know they are UNTOUCHED |
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Lingwendil Samba Member
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boxer74 Samba Member
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Kafer_Mike Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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I run them on my IDFs. Makes changing the idle jet much easier in a Beetle. The jet holder stays snuggly on the allen wrench making it easy to locate, remove and install. I use a shortened allen wrench (~2" long) for even more clearance. No more fumbling 'blind' with a screw driver on the back jets or searching for dropped jet holders in the engine compartment. Done that too many times. _________________ Kafer_Mike
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earthquake Samba Member
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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The IDF's with top Idle jets were made for Fiat's, I don't remember what model but it was almost impossible to access the Idle jets in the normal configuration.
I have a set on the shelf as well that I am going to convert the linkage on to mount on a Honda Goldwing.
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