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I have found it to be completely unnecessary when you have proper air filters and a good fuel filter. Three years of running now and not once have I needed to clean any jets. Fix the problem at the source.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:50 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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These would be handy for sure!
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Dale M.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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"Jet Doctors" seem to solve the problem and probably less expensive...
https://www.cbperformance.com/product-p/7557.htm
Dirty idle jets are from crappy sealed air cleaners....
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QRP
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience 
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too  |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top. 
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO it's the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ????
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:05 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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| Lingwendil wrote: |
60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top.
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ???? |
IDF idle jets are on the side (diaphragm). Not on top. The air corrector, emulsion tube, and main jet along with the "holder" is on top. |
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QRP
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:10 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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| Lingwendil wrote: |
60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top.
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ???? |
IDF idle jets are on the side (diaphragm). Not on top. The air corrector, emulsion tube, and main jet along with the "holder" is on top. |
YES I KNOW THAT !!! did you read what the entire paragraph??? |
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KEGZ
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:14 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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| KEGZ wrote: |
| QRP wrote: |
| Lingwendil wrote: |
60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top.
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ???? |
IDF idle jets are on the side (diaphragm). Not on top. The air corrector, emulsion tube, and main jet along with the "holder" is on top. |
YES I KNOW THAT !!! did you read what the entire paragraph??? |
Oh, my. bad! lol. Staring at code all morning has mushed my brain.. |
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Lingwendil
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:53 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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| Lingwendil wrote: |
60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top.
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ???? |
IDF idle jets are on the side (diaphragm). Not on top. The air corrector, emulsion tube, and main jet along with the "holder" is on top. |
Some are different- this is the setup all the chinese factories should be copying-
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Apologies for the slow reply! time difference and shift working patterns tend to interfere with important stuff  I thought I would post some pictures so you can see what we're dealing with. they have 5 transfer ports , but am not sure where to measure for idle air bleed size? excuse my ignorance
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Thread here-
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=535498&start=0
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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In general to keep your carbs clean, besides a good set of air filters, running your engine dry of fuel if the car if it is not going to be used for more then a few days. Actually like myself, some guys on this forum do it all the time..
I know that is a problem for guys with mechanical pumps, unless you use a hand turn-off valve on a fuel line.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 11:54 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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60 eurobucks a pair is pretty expensive for convenience
Could be nice in a kit car setting where they are hard to get to. Better yet would be to run a 40IDF 78/79 or 83 Weber with top-access idles, or a pair of dellortos. But that's more money too |
In all my VW , weber years I never knew they made them with the idle jets on top.
I wonder why they didn't make them all like that, it's IMO the only down side to the IDFs.
You got a pic ???? |
IDF idle jets are on the side (diaphragm). Not on top. The air corrector, emulsion tube, and main jet along with the "holder" is on top. |
Some are different- this is the setup all the chinese factories should be copying-
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Apologies for the slow reply! time difference and shift working patterns tend to interfere with important stuff I thought I would post some pictures so you can see what we're dealing with. they have 5 transfer ports , but am not sure where to measure for idle air bleed size? excuse my ignorance
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https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=535498&start=0 |
I agree with you 100% that the CHI-DFs should've copied this idle circuit.
It would be a game changer.
I wonder if its possible to modify a standard IDF to this configuration?? |
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APPLEGREENVW
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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[quote="Lingwendil"] this is the setup all the chinese factories should be copying.
Maybe the Chinese factories didn't know these IDF's setup were available to copy from. Someone needs to send Empi a request. 
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:45 pm Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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Along with good, clean filters-I've found that smearing some grease on the base of the air cleaner element before you place it on to the base helps prevent clogged idle jets.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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They copied the wrong 40 DRLA too.
One set for sale in Croatia currently, on ebay, but too clean looking for my taste.
I prefer when they are covered in grime straight from the junkyard, cables and hoses cut and hanging off.
You know they are UNTOUCHED |
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Kafer_Mike
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 6:45 am Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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I run them on my IDFs. Makes changing the idle jet much easier in a Beetle. The jet holder stays snuggly on the allen wrench making it easy to locate, remove and install. I use a shortened allen wrench (~2" long) for even more clearance. No more fumbling 'blind' with a screw driver on the back jets or searching for dropped jet holders in the engine compartment. Done that too many times.
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2022 1:36 pm Post subject: Re: Things you always dreamed off... IDF idle jet holders long xxl |
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The IDF's with top Idle jets were made for Fiat's, I don't remember what model but it was almost impossible to access the Idle jets in the normal configuration.
I have a set on the shelf as well that I am going to convert the linkage on to mount on a Honda Goldwing.
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