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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10379 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:00 pm Post subject: OK to use this for front heater fan connection? |
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Hi folks.
I think the answer is "yes" but it'll be inside the heater box and the material is different than most white VW connectors....
Is this connector housing suitable to use for connecting the front heater fan? i.e. will it take the heat from wire and heater core?
This is the only VW type connector I can find in my VW heap O wires and stuff.
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ZsZ Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 4:45 am Post subject: Re: OK to use this for front heater fan connection? |
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If you use the male and female spade connectors then it is just an insulation so it is OK to use.
However I prefer the classic TE/AMP FASTIN-FASTON connectors
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:14 am Post subject: Re: OK to use this for front heater fan connection? |
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Dave: ok thanks. I understand what you mean. The fan has low hours, still sounds fine. I'll sneak some oil (thicker oil like engine oil?) into the bearing.
ZsZ: Yes. That's the plan. And as your image shows, the male terminal locks into insulator. Hopefully, I'll find correct diameter wire, or larger, with factory crimped female terminals.
The connector I show may've been used for the Westfalia sink motor circuit.
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ZsZ Samba Member
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 9:26 am Post subject: Re: OK to use this for front heater fan connection? |
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Vanagon Nut wrote: |
ZsZ: Yes. That's the plan. And as your image shows, the male terminal locks into insulator. Hopefully, I'll find correct diameter wire, or larger, with factory crimped female terminals.
The connector I show may've been used for the Westfalia sink motor circuit.
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Both the male and the female terminals have the locking tabs to keep them in the insulator housings. On my pic they are just a tinned version of the copper ones on your pic.
I think the H shaped insulator/connector on your pic is used on the fridge mains connector. _________________ Zoltan
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
Joined: February 08, 2008 Posts: 10379 Location: Sunshine Coast B.C.
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Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 8:36 pm Post subject: Re: OK to use this for front heater fan connection? |
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ZsZ wrote: |
Vanagon Nut wrote: |
The connector I show may've been used for the Westfalia sink motor circuit.
Neil. |
I think the H shaped insulator/connector on your pic is used on the fridge mains connector. |
Ah, that may be Zoltan. I just recall seeing a connector like that under the sink area of my 1981 Westfalia.
I'm over thinking all this but doing this will be an improvement of my previous work.
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:11 am Post subject: Re: OK to use this for front heater fan connection? |
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If you use the external Jeep resistor, then I'd just run a full length of wire in to the fan, and thus reduce a junction that can loosen over time and create more resistance. _________________ Casey--
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 9:29 am Post subject: Re: OK to use this for front heater fan connection? |
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Thanks Casey. The Vanagon resistor is (was) mounted up near rad-headlight area so running wires straight from motor to box exterior makes sense; it's something I've considered.While converting from air to water cooled in 2008, I installed a connector at fan motor wires outside the box. The wires from the motor are somewhat short already but there should be enough to work with. As a side note, am thankful the "new" box had a Vanagon resistor. Maybe it's a good spare (untested).
I'll be doing this same job on my '88 soon. New motor. It has a male and female push connector right on the motor. Febi part. I'm thinking it might be best to strap the wires inside the box to keep those wire connectors from coming loose.
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danfromsyr Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 10:51 am Post subject: Re: OK to use this for front heater fan connection? |
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really going to a modern PWM fan speed controller will eliminate the heat and associated risks of the resistive model for speed control.
only 1 wire from the PWM controller to the fan. _________________
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: OK to use this for front heater fan connection? |
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I like the PWM idea but in my case, trying to use up parts I have lying around. Gotta move pretty soon so am downsizing.
I should double check this but in regards to heat, IIRC, the insulated push type connectors I used on wires outside of box (to facilitate box removal) might've showed minor signs of heat. But, they had a layer of tape over them to make sure they stayed in place.
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Vanagon Nut Samba Member
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Posted: Thu Dec 02, 2021 8:29 pm Post subject: Re: OK to use this for front heater fan connection? |
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Vanagon Nut wrote: |
....The Vanagon resistor is (was) mounted up near rad-headlight area so running wires straight from motor to box exterior makes sense; it's something I've considered. |
So this is what I did. Soldered new #14 wires onto the motor wires which are #12 AWG it seems. Early Vanagons show #16 wires, #14 is what I had on hand.
The spot where the resistor was mounted made for a decent point to secure the wires inside the box.
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