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skills@eurocarsplus
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Location: sticksville, ct.
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 Posted: Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:49 pm Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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Yes, I looked hard.
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here we fuckin go...
dude....i've been driving mk1's since you were shitting your diaper. second... cardone is iffy...but the one i posted is the one you need. look at the picture... that is the SAME FUCKING ONE in my truck right now.... from the SAME VENDOR. made by cardone and look, i'm still here  i literally pulled it from my ebay history to post for you.
scroll down a bit and you'll see it installed
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=694220&highlight=sportruck
if your pockets are deep enough i have a NOS one i picked up not too long ago. 600 shipped and its yours
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| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
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| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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pgtips
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skills@eurocarsplus
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Location: sticksville, ct.
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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if you mean the one that supplies vacuum to the booster it's 12mm
the bigger vent hose coming off the front of the booster, i'd have to measure
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my reason for switching to subaru is my german car was turning chinese so i said fuck it and went japanese....... |
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| Thanks for the correction. I used to be a nice guy, then I ruined it by exposing myself to the public. |
| Brian wrote: |
| Also the fact that people are agreeing with Skills, it's a turn of events for samba history |
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pgtips
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kreemoweet
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Joined: March 13, 2008
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Location: Seattle, WA
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| Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2021 9:36 am Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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| pgtips wrote: |
| Thanks, was the one that feeds :-) |
The air supply (not vacuum) nipple on the front of the booster is 14 mm on the late (?73-up) models,
and 17 mm on the early bays.
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Komet155
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Joined: September 25, 2017
Posts: 7
Location: New Jersey
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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I'm not going to bother discussing this further with you.
I know what I know, and and am not interested in your fascination with shitty diapers.
| skills@eurocarsplus wrote: |
| Komet155 wrote: |
Yes, I looked hard.
First of all, |
here we fuckin go...
dude....i've been driving mk1's since you were shitting your diaper. second... cardone is iffy...but the one i posted is the one you need. look at the picture... that is the SAME FUCKING ONE in my truck right now.... from the SAME VENDOR. made by cardone and look, i'm still here i literally pulled it from my ebay history to post for you.
scroll down a bit and you'll see it installed
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=694220&highlight=sportruck
if your pockets are deep enough i have a NOS one i picked up not too long ago. 600 shipped and its yours |
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Wasted youth
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Joined: July 06, 2012
Posts: 5134
Location: California's Hot and Smoggy Central Valley
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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| ...I was leaning toward's Karps... |
We just got back from a four day trip over undulating grades on Pacific Coast Highway. 300+ miles there and back. Zero problems with the Karp's booster rebuild, and the booster they rebuilt for our 1973 Type 2 is still flawless. |
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richparker
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Location: Durango, CO
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| Posted: Tue Nov 30, 2021 10:00 pm Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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| Wasted youth wrote: |
We just got back from a four day trip over undulating grades on Pacific Coast Highway. 300+ miles there and back. Zero problems... |
Nice!!!
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Komet155
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| Posted: Wed Dec 01, 2021 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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That's good to know, thanks!
| Wasted youth wrote: |
| Komet155 wrote: |
| ...I was leaning toward's Karps... |
We just got back from a four day trip over undulating grades on Pacific Coast Highway. 300+ miles there and back. Zero problems with the Karp's booster rebuild, and the booster they rebuilt for our 1973 Type 2 is still flawless. |
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jtauxe 
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Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 11:15 am Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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| Nicholas D wrote: |
| I can't help you between Karp's and Prior as I got mine rebuilt through Brake Materials and Parts but I can say I think he did an excellent job on mine. |
I second that. Over the years, they have rebuilt about 4 of these for me.
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SGKent
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Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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| Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 1:05 pm Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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Many of us have known Don (Skills) a long time. He is a valuable member, and tells it like it is. Attacking him over a bruised ego doesn't sit well with me, especially when he was just speaking straight up like he normally does.
Karp's did the one in a CJ7 I owned when I lived in Upland. The shop was clean and the unit done in a timely manner. That was 35 years ago and they are still around - that says something about their work.
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Jetfxr69
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Location: White mtns nh
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 4:41 am Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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got a quote and was gonna send Crushers ‘76 servo out to Brake Materials and Parts for rebuild, but then just found that WW is selling their own new manufactured (not rebuilt according to their site) servos, for less then i can have this 45 year old one rebuilt.
i get the idea of og parts rebuilt are still better then new sometimes. was just curious if anyone has had success with NEW booster installation vs rebuilding og.
BM and P. @$300 all in shipping (rebuild)
WW. @ $200 all in shipping. (new)
theres no time rush on this item, so I wouldnt care if it took months to get mine repaired. just another item on the list to get done.
Is WW an actual manufacturer? As in, stamp, assemble, paint, test, etc, or do they have their parts sub’d out somewhere?
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richparker
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:22 am Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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I believe the WW is made in China. I do know 1 person who has installed one and he hasn’t had any problems. But, it was recently installed so only time will tell. I sent my core to Bush Power Brake and they sent me one they had already rebuilt. Turn around time was a little over a week. For the extra $100 I’d go with the rebuilt factory unit. I mean we are talking about brakes here. What’s $100 these days? That’s like a tank of gas.
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kreemoweet
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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| Jetfxr69 wrote: |
| Is WW an actual manufacturer? |
Those came out quite some time ago.
The same booster is being sold by other vendors, all over the world,
and some ads indicate it's made in China. But for all we know, all the rebuilders are using
parts obtained from the same Chinese outfit that's making these new ones.
WW claims "made by WW" for a number of the parts they sell, but I'm not aware of them
having any manufacturing facilities.
Reviews have been mixed here on thesamba.com.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=583610
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Jetfxr69
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| Posted: Sun Dec 12, 2021 7:04 pm Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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ok, thanks for that search link. I need to try harder when i search cause those 3 pages answered the questions I had. i kinda expected their stuff was sourced elsewhere as is most everyone these days. and as Rich mentioned, for an extra $100 wheres the worry.
im not interested in trying to save the $100, was just curious if a new unit would deliver the performance that I would expect. and its clear from the feedback, these WW units, would not.
thank you men. im back to my original plan to ship this og one out for rebuild. dont even know its condition as this rig is on jackstands and ive never run it, but im gonna play it safe and replace EVERYTHING in the brake system. its for my kid, so….
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TomWesty
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 4:11 pm Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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| kreemoweet wrote: |
| Jetfxr69 wrote: |
| Is WW an actual manufacturer? |
Those came out quite some time ago.
The same booster is being sold by other vendors, all over the world,
and some ads indicate it's made in China. But for all we know, all the rebuilders are using
parts obtained from the same Chinese outfit that's making these new ones.
WW claims "made by WW" for a number of the parts they sell, but I'm not aware of them
having any manufacturing facilities.
Reviews have been mixed here on thesamba.com.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=583610 |
The brand is Airtec I believe. Mine went in just fine and works just fine.
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SGKent
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 6:56 pm Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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the factory one in my '82 CJ7 (AMC bought from GM) went bad at 3 years and 80,000 miles. Karp's rebuilt it and it was still going strong at 10 years and 500,000 miles.
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airschooled
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 7:09 pm Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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Both WW boosters I installed in 2019 boosted so much the same car was almost undrivable. That tells me it's not a one-time issue. I kept one on hand to loan out to folks while they get their originals rebuilt.
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SGKent
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| Posted: Mon Dec 13, 2021 10:23 pm Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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Both WW boosters I installed in 2019 boosted so much the same car was almost undrivable. That tells me it's not a one-time issue. I kept one on hand to loan out to folks while they get their originals rebuilt.
Robbie |
yeah - I remember the brake boosters on Cadillacs in the 70's. You breathed on them and the car skidded to a stop.
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Abscate
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| Posted: Tue Dec 14, 2021 4:56 am Post subject: Re: Brake booster rebuild shop |
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Both WW boosters I installed in 2019 boosted so much the same car was almost undrivable. That tells me it's not a one-time issue. I kept one on hand to loan out to folks while they get their originals rebuilt.
Robbie |
Thinking that through, there must be either a counter spring that is wrong or the vacuum is bled through some sort of limiting port that has to be matched. It’s a pretty simple device.
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