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Grego in Sac Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2019 Posts: 154 Location: Sac, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:08 pm Post subject: Weld / solder an oil cooler pin hole |
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Has anyone been able to successfully remelt or resolder with silver solder a pin hole leak on an oil cooler where the up and down plate butts together at the bottom or top?
Been chasing an oil leak and finally was able to run the engine on a stand to see the oil bubbling and slowly dripping down the mounting area onto the case.
Pressured tested the cooler and using soapy water can see tiny bubbles coming from this area.
It’s at the bottom inside of the cooler.
Can I use heat to remelt the solder, if it is originally soldered together, and add extra to seal it up, or use silver solder if it wasn’t originally soldered?
I plan to buy a new one or at the very least an extra but why waste the money and time waiting unless I have to. Plus there a bunch of runs, gift giving and cruises happening now and for the rest of this month and it kills me to have the car sitting on jack stands. |
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b-man Samba Member
Joined: May 20, 2008 Posts: 498 Location: So Cal
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 9:12 pm Post subject: Re: Weld / solder an oil cooler pin hole |
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Replace it.
It cannot be repaired.
Time’s a wastin’, get a new one ordered up so you can enjoy your car. _________________ 1956 Dove Blue Panel
1966 Velvet Green Single Cab
1957 L41 Black Oval Window Beetle |
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evanfrucht Samba Member
Joined: July 24, 2016 Posts: 2180 Location: Laurel Canyon, CA
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Posted: Sat Dec 04, 2021 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: Weld / solder an oil cooler pin hole |
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Ya, generally risky to repair. Perhaps it could "hold" just temporarily until the new one shows up, but it's hard to reccomend that. Its already removed... just get a new one it should be quicker that trying to bandage the bad one anyway. Find one in stock and get it shipped quick. I bet you there is one for sale in stock somewhere right now just sitting on a shelf a flat rate priority box ships most places in the US in 2-3 days. _________________ 1967 Bug ( the daily rod )
1964 Fury Wagon ( the pavement shredder ) |
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Pruneman99 Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2012 Posts: 5013 Location: Oceanside
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 2:10 am Post subject: Re: Weld / solder an oil cooler pin hole |
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Is there a VW shop anywhere near you? Someone has got to have one sitting on a shelf. |
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frenchroast Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2019 Posts: 678
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:14 am Post subject: Re: Weld / solder an oil cooler pin hole |
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From the picture, it appears to be an easy fix. I'd braze it. |
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KEGZ Samba Member
Joined: October 11, 2021 Posts: 288 Location: Whales Vagina
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:29 am Post subject: Re: Weld / solder an oil cooler pin hole |
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I’ve got these aluminum “welding” rods. Only a benzomatic is needed. Bought them at the big Pomona swap where the vendor demonstrated the use case for what you have in front of you now. He demonstrated sealing holes in aluminum cans. I’ve never used them before so I can’t provide feedback on them. But if anything, I think they’d be an option. However, replacing the cooler would probably let you sleep better at night. |
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67rustavenger Samba Member
Joined: February 24, 2015 Posts: 9663 Location: Oregon
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:37 am Post subject: Re: Weld / solder an oil cooler pin hole |
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Never heard of brazing aluminum. But it looks like it can be done.
Link
Personally, I'd buy a new cooler and call it a day!
It shouldn't be too hard to find one in Flat Sac. _________________ I have learned over the years.
Cheap parts are gonna disappoint you.
Buy Once, Cry Once!
There's never enough time to do it right the first time. But there's always enough time to do it thrice.
GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo! |
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esde Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 5927 Location: central rust belt
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Weld / solder an oil cooler pin hole |
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Anyone thats ever tried to weld or braze an oily thing has already thrown that in the garbage and ordered a new one. Especially aluminum, which is particularly intolerant of any greasy contamination.
Not to mention the possibility of sending orphaned bits of braze rod and solder into the oil stream. _________________ modok wrote:
Bent cranks are silent but gather no moss. I mean, ah, something like that. |
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Grego in Sac Samba Member
Joined: November 25, 2019 Posts: 154 Location: Sac, CA
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 8:09 am Post subject: Re: Weld / solder an oil cooler pin hole |
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So I’m sitting here after dinner scrolling Amazon and other websites for a new cooler and then BAMM!!
It dawned on me that the coolers I’m looking for are type 4 oil coolers and I have a bunch of type 4 motors on a trailer back behind the shop from the several 914”s parked on the side of the house!
Picked a oem cooler from one of them and got things back together last night at around midnight!
As a bonus, the oil pressure got stronger numbers once warmed up compared to the aftermarket cooler. Could be the fact that it doesn’t have a leak but I think the size of the holes had something to do with it, I had to use the 8mm to 10mm adapter seals to get it to seal. And the oem unit just looked stout..
Might try and heat up the old one and see if I could fix it, for shits and giggles |
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jpaull Samba Member
Joined: February 22, 2005 Posts: 3456 Location: Paradise, Ca
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Posted: Sun Dec 05, 2021 10:49 am Post subject: Re: Weld / solder an oil cooler pin hole |
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Bugformance in Sac should have those in stock. Part number 021117021B.
On ebay I have found a Nos German one for $85 and similar Taiwan made ones for $70.
Hopefully the one you put in lasts. Glad you got it together. |
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