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ach60 
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 Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:25 am Post subject: The End of 3G is the End of Volkswagen's telematics obsolete |
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I bought a VW Atlas for my wife in 2018, actually I asked her to go drive a New Passat.
I dropped off at the dealer, and 3 hours later she called, said she was done with the test drive.
When I got there, she was sitting in a $53,000 VW Atlas with every option known to human kind.
For our use, the options on the Atlas pushing the price to $53,000 were not required.
So, we ended up buying an Atlas SE with Tech lowering the price to a point where my nose stopped bleeding.
Last week I got a Letter from VWoA saying the with the end of 3G would mean that,
(I think) the 3 little buttons in the overhead console would stop working,
and I would stop getting letter/emails from VWoA giving me status on the health of my VW Atlas.
What the hell? They can't update? So what is 3G verses 4G and 5G?
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:50 am Post subject: Re: The End of 3G is the End of Volkswagen's telematics obsolete |
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Cellular networks. Your car talks to the home base via a network rolled out in 2002, which will go dark by end of 2022
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 4:28 am Post subject: Re: The End of 3G is the End of Volkswagen's telematics obsolete |
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It is not just your car. I have dozens of customers with cell based telephone entry call boxes outside of their subdivision and private gated entry's. This will cost my customers 5 to 7k a pop to update.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 5:47 am Post subject: Re: The End of 3G is the End of Volkswagen's telematics obsolete |
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And you can expect a lot more of this in the future as car makers add more and more tech to their vehicles. The nav system in our 10-year-old Honda won't be supported after this year.
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KTPhil
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 10:53 am Post subject: Re: The End of 3G is the End of Volkswagen's telematics obsolete |
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GM's OnStar functionality is also a casualty of this obsolescence. But most cars used 3G and will lose functionality. It's not just VW.
An old VW without computers, plus a large screen cell phone, should be almost obsolescence-proof. |
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:36 pm Post subject: Re: The End of 3G is the End of Volkswagen's telematics obsolete |
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I just had to get a newer TracFone as mine was going off service in Feb. 2022 because it was 3G. My previous cell phone was Verizon but support stopped because it was analog. So I got a 4G Flip Phone for $20
I use a laptop with Windows 7 to access the Internet. Someday will try to get the phone set up for that.
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Glenn
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 12:39 pm Post subject: Re: The End of 3G is the End of Volkswagen's telematics obsolete |
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At least you don't have to worry about not able to buy points.
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| Posted: Thu Dec 23, 2021 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: The End of 3G is the End of Volkswagen's telematics obsolete |
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Without going off topic. The last time I went to the movies, The automated ticket service was offline and when it rebooted, it was windows XP. WTF? So, the technology, does work, it just isn.t supported.
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| Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 7:55 am Post subject: Re: The End of 3G is the End of Volkswagen's telematics obsolete |
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| Aaahhhhhhh! Lovely, at least Mineral Oil is still being made and shipped so people can still use Air Cooled VWs, among other things. |
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Zundfolge1432
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| Posted: Fri Dec 24, 2021 8:36 am Post subject: Re: The End of 3G is the End of Volkswagen's telematics obsolete |
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Long story short technology is bad and new technology is even worse.  |
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