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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

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An unnamed family member of mine managed to break a half shaft on my Porsche 356C transmission. Apparently one of the few VW parts carried over to the car. Also, apparently a very difficult part to break, but oh well. This was almost 10 years ago and even then it was $6000+ to fix. Said member never did learn to drive a stick. Sad


356Cs have half shafts (CV joints)? I learned something new today.
I thought they had axles like a Bug/Bus/earlier Porsche/etc.

Maybe he meant Countershaft?

I was wondering if it was an axle or the main shaft instead.

Either way, that's a weird thing to break.
I would wonder if it was fatigued or cracked somehow.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

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I have 5 cars. All of them have manual transmissions with a clutch pedal, even the newer one. I don't know how to drive an automatic...... Very Happy

We have 5 that are manual transmission as well. We made sure the kids knew how to drive a stick when they were learning, in addition to random tractors and other oddball vehicles on the farm. Our daughter on occasion takes the beater Ford farm pickup to work (Cabela's) and impresses the boys that she's not afraid to drive an old big sized truck, and one of them can't even drive a stick, which cracks her up to no end.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

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An unnamed family member of mine managed to break a half shaft on my Porsche 356C transmission. Apparently one of the few VW parts carried over to the car. Also, apparently a very difficult part to break, but oh well. This was almost 10 years ago and even then it was $6000+ to fix. Said member never did learn to drive a stick. Sad


356Cs have half shafts (CV joints)? I learned something new today.
I thought they had axles like a Bug/Bus/earlier Porsche/etc.

Maybe he meant Countershaft?


That's what I recall the gearbox fixer (probably the best in the business) calling it. It was one of the axle halves-stock-no CV joint-apologies for any confusion. The bill included replacing the ring/pinion gear (his recommendation) and all the associated engine/transaxle drop/refit charges. Three of the synchros got replaced as well. And the R/P was a used German made repro--"only" cost me $1200 as opposed to $2800 for a "new" German repro (the one in my car was Italian made) or $4200 for a new German repro with a Porsche P/N. Talk about a racket.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

We have 20 vehicles in our yard presently including tractors, buggies, cars, truck, converted school bus, motorcycles and snowmobile. The sled is belt drive, one small bike has auto clutch, one car is automatic and the other 16 are all standard shift with a clutch peddle. All 4 of our children and my wife are competent on a standard shift anything.

When youngest my daughter took driver training through the high school she requested a standard shift car for the course and was told it was not an option because the instructor could not drive a stick!

When she graduated the her class mate escort showed up in a 4 door soccer mom SUV to pick her up, very disappointed because his Dad would not let him take his '70 Camaro. I pointed to my 944 and said "Take that, it matches her dress." But... he couldn't drive a stick... so I then said "She can drive YOU there then!" Very Happy

The memory of the look on his face at my suggestion still makes me grin!

...they went in the soccer special... seems it would have hurt his manly image too much to be drive there by her in a Porsche!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:56 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

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seems it would have hurt his manly image too much to be drive there by her in a Porsche!


He needs to learn that being the partner of a strong and smart woman is the most manly posture of all!
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:04 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

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seems it would have hurt his manly image too much to be drive there by her in a Porsche!


He needs to learn that being the partner of a strong and smart woman is the most manly posture of all!


Yep. What a missed opportunity at getting respect from her father!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

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seems it would have hurt his manly image too much to be drive there by her in a Porsche!


He needs to learn that being the partner of a strong and smart woman is the most manly posture of all!


Yep. What a missed opportunity at getting respect from her father!

Missed making an impression on his school mates too! Not everyone in rural red neck cattle country rolls into thier Grad in a Porsche, even a lowly 944.

The opportunity was not lost on my son when he graduated though! And for a little extra wow factor he convinced a lovely friend of his sister to come out from the city and accompany him!

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

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Talk about about great footnotes!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:33 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

Here is a link to a Jalopnik article from three months ago. It says that sales of new stick-shift cars increased by 89% from 2021 to 2023. However, that statistic is not so impressive when you hear that so far in 2023, only 1.7% of all new-car purchases have been vehicles with manual transmissions.
https://jalopnik.com/manual-transmission-sales-double-stick-shift-take-rate-1850184123

According to the article's author it is millennials who are responsible for the increase. I found some of the reader comments to be illuminating.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:07 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

Helps to explain why I'm the only guy in town who grinds flywheels right now.

I bought another flywheel grinder last week. Stupid move or genius, not sure, but the price was so right I can't lose.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:55 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

Outside the USA every car, van and truck seem to be manual and usually rwd. This country is just backwards.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

6 years ago when we were in South America for 3 weeks we only saw 3 cars with auto transmissions out of all the ones we were in and that I walked by. A very rare thing to find an auto box there!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

oprn wrote:
cdennisg wrote:
KTPhil wrote:
oprn wrote:
seems it would have hurt his manly image too much to be drive there by her in a Porsche!


He needs to learn that being the partner of a strong and smart woman is the most manly posture of all!


Yep. What a missed opportunity at getting respect from her father!

Missed making an impression on his school mates too! Not everyone in rural red neck cattle country rolls into thier Grad in a Porsche, even a lowly 944.

The opportunity was not lost on my son when he graduated though! And for a little extra wow factor he convinced a lovely friend of his sister to come out from the city and accompany him!

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

I consider my automatic equipped vehicle to be self-driving & that's the closest I'll ever get.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:09 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:53 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

When Mopar made the Torqueflite 727, you could feel a positive shift from one gear to another. That was a great automatic. The Caravan we have now(2017) slips & slides between gears when you're at certain speeds. I'm so disgusted that I would prefer just a single speed & torque converter like the old fluid drive they had back in the late 40s & early 50s when you just placed the manual in 3rd & let the clutch out.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

sales of automatic cars are rising in the UK. last year 54% were auto compared to 20% a decade ago. shifting gears gets in the way of texting I guess. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

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Outside the USA every car, van and truck seem to be manual and usually rwd. This country is just backwards.

I believe I heard that USA and Canada are mostly automatic transmissions.....
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

Regardless of what EPA ratings are, a manual transmission vehicle has always gotten better mileage than the same model with an automatic. That & the extra cost for an automatic are 2 reasons why American vehicles are usually equipped with an automatic. It means more money for the auto makers & the oil companies.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:31 am    Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) Reply with quote

But now, these 6+ speed automatics constantly shift making the engine feel more powerful.
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