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EverettB Administrator
Joined: April 11, 2000 Posts: 69830 Location: Phoenix Metro
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:18 pm Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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busdaddy wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Jon Schmid wrote: |
An unnamed family member of mine managed to break a half shaft on my Porsche 356C transmission. Apparently one of the few VW parts carried over to the car. Also, apparently a very difficult part to break, but oh well. This was almost 10 years ago and even then it was $6000+ to fix. Said member never did learn to drive a stick. |
356Cs have half shafts (CV joints)? I learned something new today.
I thought they had axles like a Bug/Bus/earlier Porsche/etc. |
Maybe he meant Countershaft? |
I was wondering if it was an axle or the main shaft instead.
Either way, that's a weird thing to break.
I would wonder if it was fatigued or cracked somehow. _________________ How to Post Photos
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Emily's Owner Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2004 Posts: 978 Location: Canby, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 6:36 pm Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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61 BUS wrote: |
I have 5 cars. All of them have manual transmissions with a clutch pedal, even the newer one. I don't know how to drive an automatic...... |
We have 5 that are manual transmission as well. We made sure the kids knew how to drive a stick when they were learning, in addition to random tractors and other oddball vehicles on the farm. Our daughter on occasion takes the beater Ford farm pickup to work (Cabela's) and impresses the boys that she's not afraid to drive an old big sized truck, and one of them can't even drive a stick, which cracks her up to no end. _________________ Xargaret
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Jon Schmid Samba Member
Joined: May 29, 2012 Posts: 2039 Location: Southern California
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:39 pm Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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busdaddy wrote: |
EverettB wrote: |
Jon Schmid wrote: |
An unnamed family member of mine managed to break a half shaft on my Porsche 356C transmission. Apparently one of the few VW parts carried over to the car. Also, apparently a very difficult part to break, but oh well. This was almost 10 years ago and even then it was $6000+ to fix. Said member never did learn to drive a stick. |
356Cs have half shafts (CV joints)? I learned something new today.
I thought they had axles like a Bug/Bus/earlier Porsche/etc. |
Maybe he meant Countershaft? |
That's what I recall the gearbox fixer (probably the best in the business) calling it. It was one of the axle halves-stock-no CV joint-apologies for any confusion. The bill included replacing the ring/pinion gear (his recommendation) and all the associated engine/transaxle drop/refit charges. Three of the synchros got replaced as well. And the R/P was a used German made repro--"only" cost me $1200 as opposed to $2800 for a "new" German repro (the one in my car was Italian made) or $4200 for a new German repro with a Porsche P/N. Talk about a racket. |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12744 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Tue Jan 04, 2022 9:37 pm Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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We have 20 vehicles in our yard presently including tractors, buggies, cars, truck, converted school bus, motorcycles and snowmobile. The sled is belt drive, one small bike has auto clutch, one car is automatic and the other 16 are all standard shift with a clutch peddle. All 4 of our children and my wife are competent on a standard shift anything.
When youngest my daughter took driver training through the high school she requested a standard shift car for the course and was told it was not an option because the instructor could not drive a stick!
When she graduated the her class mate escort showed up in a 4 door soccer mom SUV to pick her up, very disappointed because his Dad would not let him take his '70 Camaro. I pointed to my 944 and said "Take that, it matches her dress." But... he couldn't drive a stick... so I then said "She can drive YOU there then!"
The memory of the look on his face at my suggestion still makes me grin!
...they went in the soccer special... seems it would have hurt his manly image too much to be drive there by her in a Porsche! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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KTPhil Samba Member
Joined: April 06, 2006 Posts: 34022 Location: Conejo Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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oprn wrote: |
seems it would have hurt his manly image too much to be drive there by her in a Porsche! |
He needs to learn that being the partner of a strong and smart woman is the most manly posture of all! |
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cdennisg Samba Member
Joined: November 02, 2004 Posts: 20279 Location: Sandpoint, ID
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Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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KTPhil wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
seems it would have hurt his manly image too much to be drive there by her in a Porsche! |
He needs to learn that being the partner of a strong and smart woman is the most manly posture of all! |
Yep. What a missed opportunity at getting respect from her father! _________________ nothing |
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12744 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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cdennisg wrote: |
KTPhil wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
seems it would have hurt his manly image too much to be drive there by her in a Porsche! |
He needs to learn that being the partner of a strong and smart woman is the most manly posture of all! |
Yep. What a missed opportunity at getting respect from her father! |
Missed making an impression on his school mates too! Not everyone in rural red neck cattle country rolls into thier Grad in a Porsche, even a lowly 944.
The opportunity was not lost on my son when he graduated though! And for a little extra wow factor he convinced a lovely friend of his sister to come out from the city and accompany him!
_________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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Steve M. Samba Member
Joined: July 30, 2013 Posts: 6833 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fl.
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:11 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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oprn wrote: |
I never finish anything, I have a black belt in partial arts! |
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Randall Samba Member
Joined: October 03, 2004 Posts: 1403 Location: Orange County, Alta California, El Norte
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 2:33 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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Here is a link to a Jalopnik article from three months ago. It says that sales of new stick-shift cars increased by 89% from 2021 to 2023. However, that statistic is not so impressive when you hear that so far in 2023, only 1.7% of all new-car purchases have been vehicles with manual transmissions.
https://jalopnik.com/manual-transmission-sales-double-stick-shift-take-rate-1850184123
According to the article's author it is millennials who are responsible for the increase. I found some of the reader comments to be illuminating. |
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modok Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2009 Posts: 26790 Location: Colorado Springs
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Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2023 11:07 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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Helps to explain why I'm the only guy in town who grinds flywheels right now.
I bought another flywheel grinder last week. Stupid move or genius, not sure, but the price was so right I can't lose. |
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NJ John Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 2224 Location: HdG, MD & NJ
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 8:55 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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Outside the USA every car, van and truck seem to be manual and usually rwd. This country is just backwards. _________________ 1973 standard, yellow, lowered, 3” narrowed front, 1600 blo-thru turbo w/single dell 15.4@86, so far
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oprn Samba Member
Joined: November 13, 2016 Posts: 12744 Location: Western Canada
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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6 years ago when we were in South America for 3 weeks we only saw 3 cars with auto transmissions out of all the ones we were in and that I walked by. A very rare thing to find an auto box there! _________________ We had the stone age, the bronze age, the industrial age and now we are in the age of mass deception and mind control for corporate profit. (The mass media age) |
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hobthebob Samba Member
Joined: December 08, 2021 Posts: 375 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Sun Jun 18, 2023 6:26 pm Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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oprn wrote: |
cdennisg wrote: |
KTPhil wrote: |
oprn wrote: |
seems it would have hurt his manly image too much to be drive there by her in a Porsche! |
He needs to learn that being the partner of a strong and smart woman is the most manly posture of all! |
Yep. What a missed opportunity at getting respect from her father! |
Missed making an impression on his school mates too! Not everyone in rural red neck cattle country rolls into thier Grad in a Porsche, even a lowly 944.
The opportunity was not lost on my son when he graduated though! And for a little extra wow factor he convinced a lovely friend of his sister to come out from the city and accompany him!
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Bonesberg55 Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2012 Posts: 1270
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Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2023 5:44 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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I consider my automatic equipped vehicle to be self-driving & that's the closest I'll ever get. |
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HMVWNAB Samba Member
Joined: September 23, 2006 Posts: 1089 Location: Sunshine State
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:09 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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Bonesberg55 Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2012 Posts: 1270
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 8:53 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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When Mopar made the Torqueflite 727, you could feel a positive shift from one gear to another. That was a great automatic. The Caravan we have now(2017) slips & slides between gears when you're at certain speeds. I'm so disgusted that I would prefer just a single speed & torque converter like the old fluid drive they had back in the late 40s & early 50s when you just placed the manual in 3rd & let the clutch out. |
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finster Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2012 Posts: 7951 Location: north o' the border
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 9:32 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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sales of automatic cars are rising in the UK. last year 54% were auto compared to 20% a decade ago. shifting gears gets in the way of texting I guess. _________________ "we're here on Earth to fart around" kurt vonnegut
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Cusser Samba Member
Joined: October 02, 2006 Posts: 31380 Location: Hot Arizona
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Posted: Tue Jun 20, 2023 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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NJ John wrote: |
Outside the USA every car, van and truck seem to be manual and usually rwd. This country is just backwards. |
I believe I heard that USA and Canada are mostly automatic transmissions..... _________________ 1970 VW (owned since 1972) and 1971 VW Convertible (owned since 1976), second owner of each. The '71 now has the 1835 engine, swapped from the '70. Second owner of each. 1988 Mazda B2200 truck, 1998 Frontier, 2014 Yukon, 2004 Frontier King Cab. All manual transmission except for the Yukon. http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335294 http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/album_page.php?pic_id=335297 |
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Bonesberg55 Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2012 Posts: 1270
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 7:04 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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Regardless of what EPA ratings are, a manual transmission vehicle has always gotten better mileage than the same model with an automatic. That & the extra cost for an automatic are 2 reasons why American vehicles are usually equipped with an automatic. It means more money for the auto makers & the oil companies. |
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NJ John Samba Member
Joined: September 21, 2007 Posts: 2224 Location: HdG, MD & NJ
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Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2023 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Manual transmission cars rising in value (NY Times) |
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But now, these 6+ speed automatics constantly shift making the engine feel more powerful. _________________ 1973 standard, yellow, lowered, 3” narrowed front, 1600 blo-thru turbo w/single dell 15.4@86, so far
11.41 et buggy. Long gone
Let’s go O’s! Let’s go O’s!
https://www.youtube.com/@AirSpooledGarage |
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