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blues90 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2009 Posts: 1912 Location: Hollywood ,CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:39 pm Post subject: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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Short 6 point ? What do you use ? |
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Erik G Samba Member
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Glenn Mr. 010
Joined: December 25, 2001 Posts: 76940 Location: Sneaking up behind you
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:00 pm Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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S/K 36mm _________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
"You may not get what you pay for, but you always pay for what you get"
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blues90 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2009 Posts: 1912 Location: Hollywood ,CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:20 pm Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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I have an 73 Square with auto trans. Some places sell the 12 point EMPI makes I don't trust that. I did find a few 36 MM 6 point short impact sockets on Amazon. I did get the good seal installer. |
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Multi69s Samba Member
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Glenn Mr. 010
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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_________________ Glenn
74 Beetle Specs | 74 Beetle Restoration | 2180cc Engine
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Tvättbjörn Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2004 Posts: 1431 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 10:31 pm Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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I agree on 3/4 drive. It is better and that way you can also use it on the rear axle nuts and do not have to worry about breaking 1/2 inch breaker bars. We have broken any major brand and design you can think off. Trust me it usually hurts when tools are exploding near you You can find those old american made sockets on regular or car swap meets for cheap sometimes. If the first 1/4 of the socket looks worn, I would just have the socket cleaned up on a lath. |
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blues90 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2009 Posts: 1912 Location: Hollywood ,CA
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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Thank you guys for the thoughts and photo's.
Last time when I rebuilt this stock T-3 FI engine I was working at Ford so I asked another tech for a socket 36 mm socket and used my 1/2 impact to remove it at home. Then used the same socket and a 1/2 click snap-on torque wrench with a section of angle iron bolted to 2 on the flex plate holes on the floor I don't have access to barrow tools any more.
I don't have a 3/4" breaker even cheap ones are not cheap. No place loans tools here like that.
Not sure how I can torque it down.
The problem is the rear main leaks has for some time. It's been in there since 97. So far for the last few years it has not become worse so I just add oil. I loose about 4 oz every 60 miles.
Odd thing is it does not leak when running , I wiped it off and got down there to watch , it's only when I shut it down it drips .
I don't recall what brand seal I used , think it was the orange German one and I didn't have a seal installer and made the mistake of using a thin sealing compound on the outer to block and a dead blow hammer , it kept popping out so I probably ruined it and didn't think to get 2 in case. All I had was the Bentley which tells you to use sealer then Russ told me not to.
At 73 year's old I just want to be prepared if I can even do the work any more. The fuel injection makes this job even more difficult . I know the cooler seals seep a bit too.
I have the original 73 case maybe I'll see if I can get that gland bolt out as a test. Saw a few you tube videos all with 4 speeds and they R&R the gland bolt using a 1/2 " impact and red lock tight. I can't say I trust that. |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22431 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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When I rebuilt the engine in my wife's Fastback with AT, I used my IR impact with red loctite to hold the gland nut on it. It's been over 16 years now, and no issues with it coming loose. On 4 speed engines, I use my Torque Meister to tighten that bolt. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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blues90 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2009 Posts: 1912 Location: Hollywood ,CA
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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Bobnotch wrote: |
When I rebuilt the engine in my wife's Fastback with AT, I used my IR impact with red loctite to hold the gland nut on it. It's been over 16 years now, and no issues with it coming loose. On 4 speed engines, I use my Torque Meister to tighten that bolt. |
I thought I remembers you doing it that way. Must have been an IR 231, I used to have one of those. The one I have now is an IR yet not as powerful. It did remove the gland nut pretty easy and for all I know since someone rebuilt that engine they may have not had it tight enough.
I have a stubby 1/2" impact that is rated @ 450 lb's . once I get the socket I'll see if it removes to one on my original 73 engine which should be at 253 ft lbs.
How did you know when to stop to know if it was tight enough? |
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Tvättbjörn Samba Member
Joined: May 07, 2004 Posts: 1431 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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That is the problem with the impact gun. You do not really know when it is tight enough, A good gun is able to brake off the nut.
Autozone and Kragen has loaner tools. |
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blues90 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2009 Posts: 1912 Location: Hollywood ,CA
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Posted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:06 pm Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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No place near me rents torque wrench's that go to 250 ft lb. See I have to have everything at hand because once I drop the engine this is my only car.
Then if I rented one who knows if it's calibrated.
I'm at the point where just added oil like I have been and just in case I will at least have the socket and seal installer tools. |
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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blues90 Samba Member
Joined: March 14, 2009 Posts: 1912 Location: Hollywood ,CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:11 am Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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Max I don't think that would work on a auto trans flex plate. Even a torque wrench that would do 250 ft lbs would be a one time use. |
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Bobnotch Samba Member
Joined: July 06, 2003 Posts: 22431 Location: Kimball, Mi
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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I've thought about modifying the drum adapter to bolt up to an AT flexplate, so I could use my Torque Meister on it. But I don't pull the AT or engine enough in my wife's car to justify doing something like that. _________________ Bob 65 Notch S with Sunroof
71 Notch ...aka Krunchy; build pics here;
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=249390 -been busy working
64 T-34 Ghia...aka Wolfie, under construction... http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=412120
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Max Welton Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2003 Posts: 10697 Location: Black Forest, CO
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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Good socket 36 mm for gland nut ? |
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Bobnotch wrote: |
I've thought about modifying the drum adapter to bolt up to an AT flexplate, so I could use my Torque Meister on it. But I don't pull the AT or engine enough in my wife's car to justify doing something like that. |
I made a piece to use on an oversized gland nut I got from GBE. And of course whenever I do rear brakes on a type-1 or remove the rear hub on a type-3 it gets used.
I drove my old 68 exclusively up to 2016 so I really needed to do all the depot-level stuff without driving into town.
Max _________________ 1967 Type-3 Fastback
Under the Knife https://shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=151582
Home Stretch https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=767836 |
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