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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

Some, but not all of these Salzburg based buses have something in common. and it's not coincidence.

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Grossglockner Reply with quote

find the thing in common !

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

Wipers parking to the left
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Grossglockner Reply with quote

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find the thing in common !

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Looks like the first three pics, they have their sleepy eyes on.
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They all have a sunroof? 16" rims? Semaphores? Wolfsburg era pressedbumper/barndoors?
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

djfordmanjack wrote:
Some, but not all of these Salzburg based buses have something in common. and it's not coincidence.


S prefix on the plate for Salzburg apparently…?
And no passenger side mirror…
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

Check out the license plates a little more ! Smile

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djfordmanjack wrote:
Some, but not all of these Salzburg based buses have something in common. and it's not coincidence.


S prefix on the plate for Salzburg apparently…?
And no passenger side mirror…

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 2:13 am    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

Linked to the silver border/backing plate?

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Doesn’t look a safe place to build, does it?
Quaint. 23w tossed to the side, and people sat at the cafe tables.

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Now I know this is Grossglockner….but what area is it?
Like a secondary viewing area?
With the main viewing area being the large car park with the large hotel behind?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:15 am    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

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Linked to the silver border/backing plate?


Nope....simply check the numbers, guys !
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 7:08 am    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

djfordmanjack wrote:
RockStock wrote:
Linked to the silver border/backing plate?


Nope....simply check the numbers, guys !


Hmmmm...

Most of them were registered in about the same number range:

S X2.5XX

Two of them were registered in Zell am See home to a famous family:

S 72.XXX

Is that the answer? Leet us know please.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:36 am    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

Right. very close !
These are all either 62.5XX or 72.5XX numbers. In these early days the number of cars in general was very limited and after WWII the Austrian government used a certain number code ( specified digits) f.e denoting certain districts, sometimes even high ranking politicians or diplomats, and the County of Salzburg had a code of 62.5ish and 72.5ish numbers for TAXI and TRAVEL business registered vehicles. This is not an assumption that I came up with, but is confirmed by a book from the early 1950s, that a friend of mine owns. It is much like an old telephone book, only that it lists license plate numbers and their registration owners and type of vehicle. I am not sure whether this was something to be used by police, insurance companies, or other organisations, but it definitely confirms why all of these DLX or microbuses that were registered to travel agencies in Salzburg (in the ca. mid-late 1950s) start their license plate numbers with either 62.500 or 72.500 !
( I am just guessing this is also true for the 52ish range and since the booklet dates from the early 1950s, may even transition into the 80.5xx or 90.5xx range later on)

Of course this is only a super nerd detail limited to only one of 9 major Austrian regions, but goes to show how much information can be lost and found in those vintage photos...

edit: Today our license plate numbers have a combination of numbers and letters, but the Taxi cars still carry a 'TX' for the last 2 numbers. So, this tradition is still somewhat alive. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

Haha... I think I know who you mean ! Very Happy

Do you have any actual photos of these, showing their license plates?


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Two of them were registered in Zell am See home to a famous family:

S 72.XXX


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:33 am    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

Wow, what a community.
The images are great. Razz

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Alpine Buses Reply with quote

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