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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:16 am    Post subject: Help me read this key code please Reply with quote

I have the 52-53 zwitter ignition, and have found a few places that can get me a key. But only if I'm pretty sure of what these numbers are. As they're pretty worn and scratched, and I'm not familiar with that typeface, I'm having a hard time being certain. Are any off you willing to give it a guess?
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My first guess was P 50, but then maybe 59, or even 69.
What do you think? And thanks!
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

I would say P 50 but I can see why you think it's the other numbers. I would expect the top to be more curled if it was a 6 and a 9 would surely have better proportions and definition.

would it cost much if you asked for a couple of versions?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

So yeah, after asking around, P 50 seems to have the most votes, so we'll see what happens. The blanks are $30 each for repops, and $75 for NOS so either way I'm not keen to waste them..
Someone did message me the cut code for a P50, which was awesome (THANK YOU!)
If I can get some more info on how the code translates to the cut profile I'll give it a shot. Nothing like hand cutting keys to make you feel like you've stepped back in time.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

This is a tough one.

I would guess P 50 but the 5 looks like a little different than the 5 in my P 85 Barndoor pod ignition but not like it could be anything else.

As a comparison, my 85 numbers are not perfectly aligned so I don't think it's weird that they are not in line with each other.

I agree the "0" doesn't look like a 9 either but it also looks a little small to be a zero? Like it should be the same size as the 5. Weird...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:25 pm    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

I dug up a couple pics, these are still Barndoor P ignitions but same idea and with similar numbers for visual reference.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

Found a couple zwitter pics

P28
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P98
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:35 am    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

frankly speaking my first thought was 59, before I ever read the other posts.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

looks like 59 to me.

here is my p 91 to add to the font reference pile:

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2022 4:13 pm    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

Jimone and Everett, thank you
Being able to see the "9" as stamped upon a different lock cylinder definitely makes me see 50 or 59 as possibilities
Waiting on some opinions and info to come back. I'll update my findings for the future keyless
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

for sure 50
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 5:14 am    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

No way that's a zero. It's too small. I clearly see the bottom leg of a nine below it, although it does appear to have been a sloppy stamp.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

Looks like it has served a life of HARD service! That face is deformed badly. I vote for a 6 on the first number and an 8 or a 9 on the second number.

What is the buy in? Where is the marker board? Who is running the table?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 10:51 am    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

We has a similar problem with our 1950 11G, years ago - I lost the key and wanted to make another - So after a couple of guesses and only 2 blanks left, we keyed that ignition, for a blank - removed all the lock-pins and it worked perfect - no one was the wiser...

… If you want an ignition lock, with matched key, johnshenry, in Massachusetts, has one for sale- we got the other one - good luck - z
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

P 59 Z
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:38 am    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

I actually have a very similar key I'm trying to identify, its an ignition with the matching key set with key code p-25, what's interesting is it looks like it is made for a push-button start because there is only an on and off position, any help on identification would be greatly appreciated
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: help me read this key code please Reply with quote

the VW_twin: P profile switches were used up to dec 53 for beetles and feb 55 for buses and therefore were used with separate starter buttons.
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