Electric vehicles are bad

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The lack of innovation and vision here sometimes scares me.

Dave … think this through a bit regarding having to run an extension cord out the window.

Cars don’t need drivers anymore
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[chrisflstf]

Some people have claimed answers to problems by using vision, lol. In other words, it doesnt exist, might, maybe, someday happen

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Next dilemma, front or back
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Rick
Certified Mechanic by the State of Michigan in 1977
ASA certified in 1987
Certified Hunter Wheel Alignment Master Technician 1986

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Airlines fly many routes that lose money to maintain the schedule , that’s needed to position equipment and crew.
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[marklaken]

FWIW, level 1 and level 2 charging are already universal.

I charge an EV hybrid with a 120v 15 amp outlet. It is the best of both worlds in my opinion, but my household does lots of short trip urban driving, rarely driving more than 30 miles per day. I'm glad technology is evolving.
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[Q-Dog]

The very first cars were loud and slow, expensive, and frightened horses and people. Plus, there were no gas stations. It took a while to make them quiet, dependable and affordable for most people, and to build the infrastructure to support them.

The same thing is happening with electric cars as we speak. We have to start somewhere. It seems some people think all of the issues need to be solved before we can sell electric cars. I have some news for you. Internal combustion cars still don't have all of their problems solved ... and likely never will. We have learned to mold our lives around the limitations of the technology we have while we continue to improve it.

One would think people who frequent a forum dedicated to a relic of a car that was most famous for the fact it changed incrementally to become more efficient, more safe, more comfortable ... would understand this fact.

Perfect is the enemy of good.
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Brian

'69 Dune Buggy
'69 Beetle Convertible
'70 Beetle

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True but not all of us have pockets deep enough to support a novelty industry as it grows and develops. By necessity we need something practical for our situation! The Beetle was even in it's infancy. The automotive industry is long ago past the "loud and slow, expensive, and frightened horses and people" phase!

Give me something I can afford and use or go home!
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[Bonesberg55]

I absolutely agree that we still have issues with internal combustion engines. We still haven't reached that "complete burn" and never will. So we suffer with emission controls which have never been anything but a Bandaid. Why not put more research into EVs to make them more efficient and economical? I believe we have the brains to make this happen if there is not so much resistance to change. Not all change is good, but this is. "Affordable" is a relative term. How is it "affordable" to spend 50-60K for a pickup truck that holds a half sheet of plywood?

[Q-Dog]

ICE vehicles today don't satisfy the needs of every driver out there. We have no reason to expect EVs will either. Buy what works for you now. We still have many choices.

The Ford F150 is the most popular vehicle in the US. You can buy an entry level work truck on up to a $100,000 version. And soon, an electric version. Unfortunately, no one really makes the kind of truck I want any more. So, I just keep driving my 11 year old 2 door, standard transmission stripped-down Ranger. But if someone will make a 2 door electric simple work truck I wil be the first in line to take a test drive. A 4 door truck has 3 more doors than I need.

No one has said you have to buy an electric vehicle right now. And the vehicles you own now won't magically stop working tomorrow.
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Brian

'69 Dune Buggy
'69 Beetle Convertible
'70 Beetle

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Diesel and 87 octane gas are the only real options where I live so that is what we run. We have a Subaru that requires premium and it is sitting most of the time because of fuel requirements. I also have a propane powered Rabbit that is runs beautifully, is a pleasure to drive, is low maintenance and very environmentally clean. It has been sitting now for 15 years due to fuel availability. Our Lupo takes 87 octane but due to it's limited tank size is a pain to plan a long distance trip in. An EV at this point would just be another impractical odd ball taking up space in the hay shed.

I don't need another one!
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