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Vana Guy
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 Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:47 am Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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Awesome! Thanks!
For those above the equator, for you viewing pleasure
It looks like that intake manifold creates a tight fit on the drivers side.
How is the access on the front of engine (rear of van). |
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Vanagon Nut
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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Full steam ahead! Nice "fancy foot work" on the captive nut. Hope the JB holds.
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VicVan
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 9:18 am Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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Woop woop!
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Awesome! Thanks!
For those above the equator, for you viewing pleasure
It looks like that intake manifold creates a tight fit on the drivers side.
How is the access on the front of engine (rear of van). |
Thanks lol. Picture was indeed taken on the Western hemisphere, and posted late at night...
There is space, soon to be taken by the exhaust though! I'll post more detailed pics eventually.
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VicVan
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 4:42 pm Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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Almost there.
Exhaust is in.
PS fluid is in, Engine oil is in.
Coolant does not want to go in! I've poured 7.5 L (8 qts) so far, which is roughly half of what I expect to put in there.
Rear of the van is jacked. I poured coolant in the engine via the left-forward hose.
As a result expansion tank filled up. When engine was full, I switched to the coolant line to radiator.
But only 7.5L went in. I'll send an email to FAS. Any thoughts in the meantime?
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Zeitgeist 13
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:31 pm Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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Can't say as I've ever measured how much coolant I put into a van. The cooling capacity of the long block and plumbing on an inline vs a WBX is probably different. Wait until you've run the engine and got it up to temp before filling to the final amount. Don't forget to open the heater valves.
Also, I think your tailpipe needs to be rotated upwards to be roughly parallel with the muffler.
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Vanagon Nut
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| Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2022 5:46 pm Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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agreed on tail pipe.
Looking at muffler as shown below....
it may be a case of rotating the muffler CCW so the "larger" part of it is set more rearward, putting that part at ~ 180º, then repositioning tail pipe up wards one position..... maybe. Hard to say via online images.
Different install but tail pipe on one of my swaps looked like that. It would get caught on stuff. One time it got caught pretty bad. That's another story......
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VicVan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:05 am Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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I'm wary of starting the engine with only half the coolant though...
As for the exhaust, it's pretty much as per FAS install manual. I imagine the idea behind orienting it downwards is to evacuate moisture better? What's the argument for putting it straight? For better clearance as Neil stated; any other reason?
I've sent an email to FAS regarding these two points. So far they have been very reactive and have given detailed answers to all of my questions.
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:38 am Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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| VicVan wrote: |
I'm wary of starting the engine with only half the coolant though...
As for the exhaust, it's pretty much as per FAS install manual. I imagine the idea behind orienting it downwards is to evacuate moisture better? What's the argument for putting it straight? For better clearance as Neil stated; any other reason?
I've sent an email to FAS regarding these two points. So far they have been very reactive and have given detailed answers to all of my questions. |
Why not spring for the vacuum assist tool? You could also make a libby bong, (you seem like you like random clever homemade tools  ) for the expansion tank. Also was the radiator bleeder screw open when you were filling that direction?
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:56 am Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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| Zeitgeist 13 wrote: |
Can't say as I've ever measured how much coolant I put into a van. The cooling capacity of the long block and plumbing on an inline vs a WBX is probably different. Wait until you've run the engine and got it up to temp before filling to the final amount. Don't forget to open the heater valves.
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i recall this from the last couple fills we did, that even when you think youve drained it all via the engine side, if you go to mess with the hoses up front youll find another couple gallons vapor locked up front
my only recommendation would have been to empty it totally and vacuum fill but at this point doing the bong or just topping it off once running oughta be fine. crack open the radiator bleeder.
i wouldnt sweat running it partially filled as long as youre feeding it more as you go.
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VicVan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:32 am Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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I have a bong I made for the WBX. I could adapt it to the larger opening of the new expansion tank.
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enochramal
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:06 am Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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| Jake de Villiers wrote: |
| You can run it for many minutes at idle with half coolant - or less! |
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For what you paid do literally everything else in your power before running it. Might not fry your engine but it will most certainly fry your warranty.
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VicVan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 12:26 pm Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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| Jake de Villiers wrote: |
| You can run it for many minutes at idle with half coolant - or less! |
I would agree if it was a regular, broken-in engine of which all quirks are known. Then I would definitely start it and fill the expansion bottle as it warms up.
But not today. This is the very first time this very new engine will be started. Running it with half coolant is another big variable I don't need at that stage of the process.
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Vana Guy
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:01 pm Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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| Can you spin the water pump? |
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VicVan
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| Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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Yes, crankshaft (and belt) spins by hand and with the starter.
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Vana Guy
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:06 am Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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| If you can spin the pump by hand (remove belt) you might be able to get more coolant into system. Spin it back and forth maybe. |
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VicVan
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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I thought of that, and actually cranked the engine (ignition and fuel disconnected) to get the pump moving. Didn't do anything.
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wesitarz
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:42 pm Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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I still have my siphon hose that I used to fill the system (the first few times) through the rad bleeder hose if it's not full at the bleeder already. Then fill at the tank while massaging the hoses?
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wesitarz
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:57 pm Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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| I can hook up my OBD2 dongle and can monitor the engine temp on my TorquePro app after you start the engine. |
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RolandD
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| Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:02 pm Post subject: Re: Little Blue Truck gets a new engine - FAS 2.0 engine conversion |
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You could find a pulley with a 5/8" hole in it, put it on a 4 1/2" grinder with a nut to capture it, and, after checking for the proper rotational direction, spin the pump . I had a recalcitrant Roto-tiller (by brand) that was started that way.
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