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finefettle
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 Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:21 pm Post subject: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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Ok, been chipping away at getting my 1600 FI engine back together. I have taken down two engines from same year and both did not have a Hoover bit. Did 1979 FI beetles have one?
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glutamodo 
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| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 8:34 pm Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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Man, I have an EFI shroud on my Baja bug and I thought it was set up for the oil cooler sealing frame (Hoover Bit) but I just looked it up on VW's online historic parts manual and it's not listed as an AJ engine part. Hmmm.
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https://www.volkswagen-classic-parts.de/catalogues/Kaefer-1302-1303/index-sd.html#/176
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| Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 9:02 pm Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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Hmmm...., now I've gotta go look, I'm fairly sure the bottom of the cooler house has the same shape and the hole for the bolt.
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finefettle
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:08 am Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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Also, any idea where to get new rubber for the tin bits on the back around oil cooler? I have them but they are not supple.
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:32 am Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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You know this is one of those situations where you could improvise and get better than OEM performance. Unless being all stock and having that look. Using speed tape we have sealed these gaps 100% I’d say they exceed OEM capabilities. Not readily noticeable as it’s behind the shroud.
Awesome Powder coat may have the seals if you go that route. |
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glutamodo
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:50 am Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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re: The doghouse tin seal, I know I've bought one before. A quick look at CIP came up with this:
https://www2.cip1.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=VWC%2D113%2D119%2D429
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MuzzcoVW
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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Yes, a '79 had one. On my engines one was missing and one was broken. I ordered a replacement from CIP 1. Here's the engine for my '75 that I finished recently
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finefettle
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:00 am Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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Thanks. I did see that one but the exhaust description threw me off.
Also the rectangle piece of rubber for tins seems to elusive.
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finefettle
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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That engine is sweet. And the green is a close match to my first bug I painted. It was a fiat color from the 70s 
Im going for the cleaned up with some age look.
Well dam, They are out of stock at CIP. Will look around.
Thanks
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| Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:11 am Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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| finefettle wrote: |
That engine is sweet. And the green is a close match to my first bug I painted. It was a fiat color from the 70s
Im going for the cleaned up with some age look.
Well dam, They are out of stock at CIP. Will look around.
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Thanks! It's the original L61A cliff Green. I'm sure they're available elsewhere. I plan on aging mine by driving a lot lol |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 9:47 pm Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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| I inherited a 72 super beetle and have just pulled the engine to dig in a bit deeper. Come to find out I am missing the hoover bit! first question is where can I find one as all the online shops don't have them. Second question is what do i use as the seal that was originally on the oil cooler? t seems like some type of weather stripping. any advice would be greatly appreciated! |
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| Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:30 pm Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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I got my Hoover Bit from Awesomepowdercoat.com
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 9:02 am Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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| hjames575 wrote: |
| . Second question is what do i use as the seal that was originally on the oil cooler? t seems like some type of weather stripping. |
Closed cell weather stripping works fine, ~1/2" thick X 3/4" wide.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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| hjames575 wrote: |
| I inherited a 72 super beetle and have just pulled the engine to dig in a bit deeper. Come to find out I am missing the hoover bit! first question is where can I find one as all the online shops don't have them. Second question is what do i use as the seal that was originally on the oil cooler? t seems like some type of weather stripping. any advice would be greatly appreciated! |
Before you order a Hoover Bit from Clark at Awesome Powder coat. How is your thermostat functioning? Might as well make one order. If you should need too 
Yes on what Busdaddy said on the foam.
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| Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:22 pm Post subject: Re: Putting together 1979 FI. Hoover bit? |
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I had to modify Hoover bit to fit FI shroud, shroud kinda incorporates part of the bit, the metal bend running front to back fits very close to cooler, then there is the cut out that needs another patch, (fabbed), I modified a stock one a bit, Here are some picks of what I did, if you can make sense of them! one pic is a mirror shot looking from the block, black and rust part is FI shroud tight to cooler.
Hoover bit is installed in all pics.
Have to slot for accelerator also.
Lots of work!
Added patch
Cooler and shroud almost touching
Patch in place
Cut off bit where it interferes with shroud.
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