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VOLTWAGEN Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2014 Posts: 118 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:17 am Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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I've got my Fox Shocks now on my bus, I measured how high the arches were before and after the install. I gained 2cm height on the front and 3 cm on the rear.
The old front shocks were gas and were Pedders brand (Australian) and have been on since I bought the bus 8 years ago, so I don't know how old they were, the rears were brand new Sachs 793 031 as I was going on a trip at Christmas and the new Fox hadn't arrived yet, one of the rear Pedders had busted the top rubber so I replaced them both, they only have about 2500km on them which was road only (nothing off-road that trip), so in my head they are 'as new'
It does change the way the bus handles, it is a bit stiffer, but the real test will be the next time I'm on a dirt road for a long time at speed or just off-road
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Nitramrebrab72 Samba Member
Joined: November 10, 2018 Posts: 462 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:51 am Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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RWK Samba Member
Joined: June 24, 2009 Posts: 1337 Location: S.W. MI
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:06 am Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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I would guess the bushings are for 1/2 bolts rather then 12mm so a bit oversize to start with, also the shocks probably are not designed for a VW bus, they just fit and poorly at that, possible rubber insert is too soft also.
In marketing products, some times items are over produced, slightly flawed, or discontinued items get put on the market, (especially after market specialty auto) auto company's are notorious for canceling contracts after items are produced, would be interesting to know what the FOX P.N. says the shocks also fits besides bus's, also the compression and rebound rates might not be correct for the bus. _________________ 73 Type 181
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VOLTWAGEN Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2014 Posts: 118 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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RWK wrote: |
I would guess the bushings are for 1/2 bolts rather then 12mm so a bit oversize to start with, also the shocks probably are not designed for a VW bus, they just fit and poorly at that, possible rubber insert is too soft also.
In marketing products, some times items are over produced, slightly flawed, or discontinued items get put on the market, (especially after market specialty auto) auto company's are notorious for canceling contracts after items are produced, would be interesting to know what the FOX P.N. says the shocks also fits besides bus's, also the compression and rebound rates might not be correct for the bus. |
part numbers here, the valving is what changes though:
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BIGSERG Samba Member
Joined: November 18, 2018 Posts: 23 Location: CA
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Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:14 pm Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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VOLTWAGEN
i ended up getting thicker washers and different hardness and they worked well. i still think the wheel spacers in the eyelet of the shock should be a little tighter on the hardware. how did yours look.
i also noticed that my old fox shock part numbers are different then yours.
my front fox shock is: fox part# 985-24-002 front
fox part# 985-24-004 rear
wondering what the difference is. ill email fox and find out haha . |
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VOLTWAGEN Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2014 Posts: 118 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Sun Feb 13, 2022 9:15 pm Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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BIGSERG wrote: |
VOLTWAGEN
i ended up getting thicker washers and different hardness and they worked well. i still think the wheel spacers in the eyelet of the shock should be a little tighter on the hardware. how did yours look.
i also noticed that my old fox shock part numbers are different then yours.
my front fox shock is: fox part# 985-24-002 front
fox part# 985-24-004 rear
wondering what the difference is. ill email fox and find out haha . |
I'd be interested in hearing the answer (if there is one), I did notice that on the GoWesty label on the fronts had V2 in the code, so maybe there is a 1st version & a 2nd version? |
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creative native Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 1227 Location: WNC
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 9:08 am Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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I notice that the V2 and earlier boxes are different sizes. It would stand to reason that the contents are of different sizes also. Has anyone verified this? |
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VOLTWAGEN Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2014 Posts: 118 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:26 pm Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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creative native wrote: |
I notice that the V2 and earlier boxes are different sizes. It would stand to reason that the contents are of different sizes also. Has anyone verified this? |
The boxes are the same size, just look different in the photo, boxs with V2 are just offset to the left a little |
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creative native Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 1227 Location: WNC
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 5:40 am Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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I'm bumping this thread in hopes of hearing further feedback on the Fox shocks from those who have or did own them.
They are pricey, but if they are worth it, I'd consider it a worthwhile investment. |
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nemobuscaptain Samba Member
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VOLTWAGEN Samba Member
Joined: May 24, 2014 Posts: 118 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 6:43 pm Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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creative native wrote: |
I'm bumping this thread in hopes of hearing further feedback on the Fox shocks from those who have or did own them.
They are pricey, but if they are worth it, I'd consider it a worthwhile investment. |
Had a great long weekend away there, 1st real test of the suspension over a long distance
I'm happy
Was mainly country roads, but also dirt roads, sand and some rock-hopping |
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metahacker Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2010 Posts: 690 Location: san.diego
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:51 pm Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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i am in the middle of mounting a set of Fox shocks on my 71 hightop and I noticed something worth noting about them:
i'm not sure if this is related to the issue you were having @BIGSERG,
but it might not be obvious that the bushings are asymmetrical (on both ends of the shock)
there are no instructions pointing this out, but i believe it's safe to assume that the larger side should face the mounting surface
it was interesting seeing just how much heavier and beefier these were than the KYB gas shocks that came off the front end of this bus.... even though the FOX bodies are aluminum and the shafts are naked....and the KYBs are steel with a steel cover over the shaft.. the KYBs are still significantly lighter.
i am really curious to see how these FOX 2.0's compare to the typical "off the shelf" Koni and Bilstein shocks (and others) i've used on Bays before ..
so far, the Bilstein is easily without equal in terms of standard stuff in standard applications.
I have high expectations for these Fox 2.0 shocks. |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2022 2:59 pm Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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makes sense, That said I was out in the garage cleaning and polishing my Koni shocks last night. Had a little dust on them. They are so pretty and work so well. It is fun to run the curves going up Priest Grade and see those sports cars and SUV's fall behind because they can't keep up until a long straightaway when they have the power and handling to catch up with us. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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metahacker Samba Member
Joined: May 26, 2010 Posts: 690 Location: san.diego
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 8:13 pm Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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so, i've had a chance to test the Fox "2.0" bus shocks (sourced from GoWesty)
i'll say this much - they're really nice.
the combination of ride quality AND handling is remarkable....
they are very much like Bilsteins....
they are close enough that picking a favorite is splitting hairs.
and yes the Koni reds are also nice.... and they are adjustable, which is cool.
I've used Bilstein, Koni and Fox (as well as stock, and multiple varieties of KYB).
Fox & Bilstein are easily my top pick.
That said, the Koni reds are still top tier and a great choice.
The direct comparison going from a relatively new set of KYB Gas-A-Just shocks to FOX 2.0 IFP shocks couldn't have been any more drastic.
It's like driving a different Bus. Night and day.
Before it sucked, now it's awesome ;-)
Anyone looking to run them, I wouldn't hesitate. |
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creative native Samba Member
Joined: October 20, 2007 Posts: 1227 Location: WNC
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Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2022 9:11 pm Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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Metahacker,
Thank you for the feedback. Hearing from someone who has used the most common shocks and now Fox is great. Over 30+ years, I've used KYB, Bilstein & currently running red Konis on my '79 Westfalia. I'm pretty sure I'll go with Fox when I replace my shocks. _________________ "The holy land is everywhere." ~ Black Elk
1979 Westfalia P27, California FI emissions spec. 100% VW fleet: '79 Westfalia, 2013 Touareg Lux (Toffee Brown/Cornsilk Beige), 2005 Passat GLX. |
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lonewolfone Samba Member
Joined: September 12, 2007 Posts: 291 Location: On the trail
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Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2022 6:22 am Post subject: Re: New Fox 2.0 Shocks |
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I've been running the fox 2.0 coil overs up front for 4 years now and they're great, used to run pro comp mx6066r shocks in the back but lost a bottom bolt on the trail and busted the shock shaft, now running fox 2.0s in the the back as well. Years before gowesty you could just order shocks from fox based on dimensions.
Koni shocks are great for pavement princesses. _________________ 63 bug "black beauty"
79 bus "sunny" (sold)
76 westy tdi swapping
65 sundial "trailer special"
75 riviera "red rocket " |
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