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jeridmark Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2021 Posts: 84 Location: CA
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:02 am Post subject: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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Hello. In the process of restoring my 68 bus. Speedometer has been working although it does bob up and down. Not real smooth. Today however it started to just spin clockwise pretty quickly. Then when I stopped the needle was stuck at 70 mph. Can this be repaired by my mechanic or is this speedometer shot? Again it was spinning clockwise at a pretty rapid pace |
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:18 am Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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might be the cable but could be the speedo. Have to ask your mechanic if he/she has experience with speedo's. If it were me and mine was bad, I'd probably replace the cable. if that didn't get it, replace the speedo with one from the same year bus, and reset the odo to the same mileage if that sort of thing is important to you, otherwise just put a note with your bus paperwork that the odo was replaced reading X with one reading Y. _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:25 am Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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There’s a great shop here in San diego _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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raygreenwood Samba Member
Joined: November 24, 2008 Posts: 21474 Location: Oklahoma City
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:28 am Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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Most common issue with the speedo needle doing that drunken bobbing thing.....is either the square hole in the front wheel bearing dust cap that drives the speedo cable is worn and the hole is rounded and the cablle lig is slipping......or in the same spot.....the "e" clip that holds the cable on is missing.
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:43 am Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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http://www.foreignspeedoinc.com/ _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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skills@eurocarsplus Samba Peckerhead
Joined: January 01, 2007 Posts: 16803 Location: sticksville, ct.
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 11:48 am Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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if the speedo stopped at 70 and didn't return to zero there is an issue between the drum and the slip plate/magnet
you may get lucky and it can get cleaned up or it just may have shit the sheets _________________
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Wildthings Samba Member
Joined: March 13, 2005 Posts: 50261
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 3:23 pm Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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I would probably disconnect the cable from the speedo and then spray some WD40 into the back of the speedo. If the WD40 does the trick, once it drains and mostly dries up I would put a couple of drops of 3-in-1 oil in there.
I would also lubricate the cable while I was at it "just because." If that doesn't get it, as mentioned above get a replacement speedo for the same/similar year. |
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OB Bus Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2531 Location: Ocean Beach in Beautiful BLUE California
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:02 pm Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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That is the shop that rebuilt my speedometer several years ago. They did a very nice job and the speedo still works perfectly. _________________ Larry in OB
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:30 pm Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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Thanks for the back up Larry.
This shop is made up of a couple old guys who fix stuff and a nice old lady that does the books. I’ve been there a few times and their work is top notch. Just the kind of shop that we should all be doing business with.
Why anyone wouldn’t send their original speedo to them and buy something unknown is a mystery to me. Plus, your problem is not the cable. Cables bind up or break. They don’t act the way your instrument is. Just send it in and get it fixed.
These are instruments from a 1967 Split bus they did. The speedo and fuel gauge.
_________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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jeridmark Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2021 Posts: 84 Location: CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:08 am Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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aeromach thanks for the info. If I need it rebuilt what is the nameof the shop? Thank you very much. In Palm Springs area so SD is not that far away. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:31 am Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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jeridmark wrote: |
aeromach thanks for the info. If I need it rebuilt what is the nameof the shop? Thank you very much. In Palm Springs area so SD is not that far away. |
http://www.foreignspeedoinc.com/
Call them, then mail it to them _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
Boeing 727,737-200-300-400,757,767
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DC9/MD80
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jeridmark Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2021 Posts: 84 Location: CA
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:21 pm Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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aeromach....Gave them a call. Sounds like great people. Thanks again. |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 2:14 pm Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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Good. Let’s see pics when you get it back _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
Licensed Airframe and Powerplant Mechanic
Licensed Pilot (Single engine Land)
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Airbus A319,320,321
DC9/MD80
BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
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VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
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VW Passat
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OB Bus Samba Member
Joined: February 09, 2003 Posts: 2531 Location: Ocean Beach in Beautiful BLUE California
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Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2022 3:38 pm Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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My speedometer was bouncing badly and I kept snapping speedo cables no matter how well I lubed them. After Foreign Speedo rebuilt mine the needle is rock solid and I have not broken a cable. They told me the "lube" inside mine was a semi-solid block of dirt and grease. Hope you have a similar experience with that shop. _________________ Larry in OB
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jeridmark Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2021 Posts: 84 Location: CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:26 am Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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I will see what the mechanic says. He said the wiring and connections in the dash are brittle which makes me super nervous. This bus sat on my dads property in the high desert of So Cal which is pretty dry year round. I thought the solution would be to have the bus rewired but after reading several forums it sounds like keeping my original wiring is the way to go??? |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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You need to send me a PM. I’ll give you all the free help I can via pics and video.
Later -Gary _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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VW Passat
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jtauxe Samba Member
Joined: September 30, 2004 Posts: 5778 Location: Los Alamos, New Mexico
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 11:22 am Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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jeridmark wrote: |
I will see what the mechanic says. He said the wiring and connections in the dash are brittle which makes me super nervous. This bus sat on my dads property in the high desert of So Cal which is pretty dry year round. I thought the solution would be to have the bus rewired but after reading several forums it sounds like keeping my original wiring is the way to go??? |
A wiring refresh can be a good idea for long-term function. But if you go there, use good OEM-type connectors, and keep the wire colors as best you can. There are folks who sell short bits of wire in many gauges and colors. _________________ John
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jeridmark Samba Member
Joined: January 07, 2021 Posts: 84 Location: CA
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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jatauxw....If I were to purchase a new wiring harness is there on that is the standard above all the rest? |
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aeromech Samba Member
Joined: January 24, 2006 Posts: 16926 Location: San Diego, California
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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If you try to install all new wiring good luck. Just under the dash will be hard. Doing the whole bus would be very tough. I’ve never done it and wouldn’t want to try _________________ Lead Mechanic: San Diego Air and Space Museum
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BAe146
Fokker F28/F100
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VW Type 2 1971 (3 ea.) 1978, 1969
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SGKent Samba Member
Joined: October 30, 2007 Posts: 41031 Location: Citrus Heights CA (Near Sacramento)
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Posted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 7:37 pm Post subject: Re: Speedometer spinning clockwise |
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most of the harnesses sold are fuse box to engine compartment and rear lights. They don't include the front which is what you want. You'll need a complete harness and it will be a lot more work than you can imagine. It took me only 1 day with a couple big printouts of the wiring schematic, a VOM and the proper crimps and tools to make sure my 1977 was like factory fresh. It is only intimidating because it seems like a lot of wires. Think like a long journey - it is only one step at time. One wire at a time. You can mark them on the schematic as you check each one. Now, if mice and rats were in there chewing, that is different.
Wolfsburg West is in Corona CA. They SAY they make a complete one for a 68-69. You might call or visit them and see what it is like. https://www.wolfsburgwest.com/cart/DetailsList.cfm?ID=211971028FC
A couple people in other threads spoke highly of this company in the UK being the one to get. http://www.vwlooms.com/ _________________ “Most people don’t know what they’re doing, and a lot of them are really good at it.” - George Carlin |
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