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PostPosted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 2:13 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

some little work on the rear wheel arch:

-Christian


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2022 1:10 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

Some work on the C-Pillar, KF part need some modification, you can see the differents to thos nos pillar.
Love my new welder and pliers, only need to learn how to Wig weld...

-Christian


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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2022 10:47 pm    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

adjusting the passenger side b-pillar, also needs cutting and bedning to make it fit.

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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

Nice work, I like how you make your own panels Cool
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 7:32 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

donald.lemay wrote:
Nice work, I like how you make your own panels Cool



I try to use as much as possible nos and kf panels!

Someone can help me with a picture from the seal chanel/ rocker down the passenger load doors? I want to know how the floor meets the rocker..

-Christian
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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2022 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

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Someone can help me with a picture from the seal chanel/ rocker down the passenger load doors? I want to know how the floor meets the rocker..


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

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Huetti_1989 wrote:
Someone can help me with a picture from the seal chanel/ rocker down the passenger load doors? I want to know how the floor meets the rocker..


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Thank you! Yes, that helps!

some work on the floor:
after cleaning the green Paint from the KF panel i have a slightly green sight to the things going on here...

-Christian
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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2022 9:11 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

Curious to why did you remove all the green primer?
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 1:57 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

matthew henricks wrote:
Curious to why did you remove all the green primer?



I love to work on clean metal parts, welding on paint dont work, i want to see whats underneth the primer, i want to use thin layers of paint, VW do not use green primer, i donīt like green underneth the finished paint, because if i get a scratchit looks green out of the scratch, so many good reasons for me to do that extra work Very Happy

-Christian
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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2022 8:04 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

Huetti_1989 wrote:
matthew henricks wrote:
Curious to why did you remove all the green primer?



I love to work on clean metal parts, welding on paint dont work, i want to see whats underneth the primer, i want to use thin layers of paint, VW do not use green primer, i donīt like green underneth the finished paint, because if i get a scratchit looks green out of the scratch, so many good reasons for me to do that extra work Very Happy

-Christian


Yes, I agree with all the above. That green stuff is thick, gooey and in my experience, the metal is not prepped well underneath. I've wiped it off with thinner and the metal is often surface rusty. Surface rust isn't good and anything that can be stripped with lacquer thinner isn't compatible in a modern paint system. My understanding is it's just a temporary primer and not to be used as a permanent undercoat. I'm surprised how often I see it left on.

Nice clean work on the bus. I always enjoy your threads.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:12 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

DSweinhagen wrote:
Huetti_1989 wrote:
matthew henricks wrote:
Curious to why did you remove all the green primer?



I love to work on clean metal parts, welding on paint dont work, i want to see whats underneth the primer, i want to use thin layers of paint, VW do not use green primer, i donīt like green underneth the finished paint, because if i get a scratchit looks green out of the scratch, so many good reasons for me to do that extra work Very Happy

-Christian


Yes, I agree with all the above. That green stuff is thick, gooey and in my experience, the metal is not prepped well underneath. I've wiped it off with thinner and the metal is often surface rusty. Surface rust isn't good and anything that can be stripped with lacquer thinner isn't compatible in a modern paint system. My understanding is it's just a temporary primer and not to be used as a permanent undercoat. I'm surprised how often I see it left on.

Nice clean work on the bus. I always enjoy your threads.



Nice to read you thinking the same.
thank you for your words, i often looked your threads, i have (and want) so much to learn in the future when i see how clean you to that work!!


Some cutting and welding test on the floor:
I wondering about the inner rocker, it is a nos part but it looks the former rocker was bent upward to meet the floor in some points, can anyone confirm that? (look the last picture. there you can see the old spotwelds on the higher spots on the floor)

-Christian

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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2022 1:05 pm    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

I decide to bent it up and spotwelded it to the floor, this is the way it should go i think. - hope…

-Christian



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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

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Is that rear nos rocker a baywindow part?
-the sill looks different, any other different things?
Not sure if i should use it.

-Christian
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Any information about that water drainage opening?
Found nothing with the search, maybe i donīt have the right words for it..

-Christian
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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 03, 2022 7:09 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

Sorry I missed your question on the inner rocker to floor yesterday... I've seen that done both ways. if it was spot welded, it was just crudely pulled together at the spot welds. The way you did it looks nice. Smile

I've seen that short rocker before and I think it's a later replacement part. If you use it, I'd just reshape the dimple to match the cargo rocker.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2022 1:51 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

DSweinhagen wrote:
Sorry I missed your question on the inner rocker to floor yesterday... I've seen that done both ways. if it was spot welded, it was just crudely pulled together at the spot welds. The way you did it looks nice. Smile

I've seen that short rocker before and I think it's a later replacement part. If you use it, I'd just reshape the dimple to match the cargo rocker.


Thank you! both ways? that is strange! maybe a late thing, i dont recognise that on my 57.
reshape, yes thats the way i should go, i hope i am able to that Laughing


Some work on the rocker, welded it in place after adjusting the doorgaps with standing on tires again.

-Christian
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My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2022 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

More welding on the floor:
Slowlz becoming better with that wig welding thing..
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My 1957 semaphore Single Cab:
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MY 1967 Sparsamba:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=757182
My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2022 2:00 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

A little Sunday work,
relase the seat holdinmg plate from the old floor and welded it back to the car, now i see why there are two holes in the middle of each plate,
it was for the reachability for the Spotwelder for floor to the I-Beams!

-Christian

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MY 1967 Sparsamba:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=757182
My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

Measuring, Measuring, Measuring and cutting on the side panel, to get a gap that is to big...

would see how i can weld that sidee panel with that bending from former acidents, holes and rust damage...

-Christian
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http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=605363&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
MY 1967 Sparsamba:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=757182
My 1954 Deutsche Bundespost Barndoor:
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=621802
My 1961 SO34 Flipseat Westfalia:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=716285
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:58 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

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Wow! This looks superb! And you know that! Wink

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2022 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: 67 Sparsamba repair from Austria Reply with quote

Very nice.

Are you plug TIG welding as well as seam welding?

Curious what was the "score inside" note reminding you to do?
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