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kubelmann Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Aug 03, 2014 6:34 am Post subject: |
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Battery Thoughts (reality check/current (haha) update)
1. Optima batteries Cost just under $200 but are no longer good quality/or spiral wound Now generic AGM and new owner..
2. Interstate Group 42 the old standby workhorse ( 9” x 7” x 7” ) Cost less than $100 and is used with good performance by many. Down side. It leaks on the pan...
3. Walmart (a.k.a. WarranteeMart) Mighty Max. (Thank goodness for replacement warrantee!!! My daughter bought a Mighty Max for her 86 Bronco II back in 2006. The car died ~ the car sat and when she got $300 from the salvage guy we kept the battery. It was super dead but still under warrantee. So off to WalMart upgrade to largest Mighty Max for my 87 F 250 Plow truck... Jump ahead to 2014. About every 12-15 months the batteries just dies. I take it out and off to Walmart for a new DUD... Free Duds hassle included (no extra charge) I have a red top optima (old style that has been in various vehicle continually since 2000. This includes over 3000 miles off road deep in Mexico in my 99 Ranger 4x4 XLT where it had lived since 2008 when the Ranger’s 9 year old Interstate died... My 06 Subaru (an Optima will not fit) has had three replacements from Walmart {Free Duds hassle included (no extra charge) }
4. Odyssey: The new great hope..
ODYSSEY Batteries PC 925 (VW) the end suffix added after pc925 determine terminal type sae post/clamp or bolt on 1/4” ring terminals (same connector as a side terminal battery except Odyssey uses superior brass connectors. Pricey? (around $200) We just bought one for a 73 Thing and a second 55 amp Odyssey ($150) for our The XPower Powerpack 1500 system (portable solar powered 1500 watt (inverter) 120 volt AC/ DC power station.) We will report back after we have used and abused these new Odyssey (“PURE LEAD plates not lead alloy) batteries.
ODYSSEY BATTERY PROPAGANDA
Phenomenal starting power and massive deep cycle reserve power in one battery!
Some batteries provide enormous cranking power. Others, deep cycle reserve power. The revolutionary ODYSSEY battery is designed to do both.
How is this possible? The answer begins with flat plates made of 99.99% pure virgin lead - not lead alloy. Pure lead plates can be made thinner, so we can fit more of them in the battery. More ODYSSEY battery plates mean more plate surface area. And that means more power - twice as much as conventional batteries.
In fact, ODYSSEY batteries are capable of providing engine cranking pulses in excess of 2250 amps for 5 seconds - double to triple that of equally sized conventional batteries, even at very low temperatures. And they can handle 400 charge-discharge cycles to 80% depth of discharge.
This extreme combination of power and performance makes ODYSSEY batteries perfect for a range of applications, including automotive/LTV, marine, commercial, and powersports.
Designed and built to last up to 3 times as long.
Thanks to rugged construction and AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) design, ODYSSEY batteries have an 8-12 year design life and a 3-10 year service life. Welded intercell connections enable it to withstand extreme vibration, and AGM design holds acid in place to prevent spills, even when installed on its side. And unlike conventional batteries, ODYSSEY batteries can be stored for up to 2 years at 25C (77F) and still be returned to full power. Storage times will be even longer at lower temperatures.
12 Volt
925 PHCA 5 second Pulse Current
380 CCA Cold Start Performance S.A.E J537 JUNE 82
625 HCA
500 MCA
28 Nominal Capacity 20 Hr Rate-Ah)
27 Nominal Capacity 10 Hr Rate-Ah)
52 Reserve Capacity Minutes
6.64 / 168.6mm Length in Inches / Milimeters
7.05 / 179.0mm Width in Inches / Milimeters
5.04 / 128.0mm Height in Inches / Milimeters
26.0 / 11.8 Weight Pounds / Kilograms
Terminals are M6 Receptacle or SAE 3/8" Receptacle Can be fitted with brass automotive terminal
Torque Specs in-lbs (Nm max) 60 (6.
5 Internal Resistance (m�)
2400A Short Circuit Current |
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obus Samba Member
Joined: March 08, 2001 Posts: 11071 Location: just off Garden State Parkway Exit 81
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oscarsnapkin Samba Member
Joined: October 22, 2013 Posts: 558 Location: Bucks County, PA
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Posted: Fri Apr 01, 2022 11:52 am Post subject: Re: Optima battery |
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obus wrote: |
Interstate battery just konked out after 2 years of light use. Anyone using Optima? Something else? |
I have an Interstate in my Bus that I purchased in 2015. I started it yesterday for the first time in over 4 months with no problems. I have a 2006 Silverado and the factory battery lasted just over 11 years. I’ve had to put two Interstate batteries in it since (actually three, the second one started leaking after a few weeks). I guess the quality is not very consistent. _________________ - 1977 CEI Sunroof Bus 2.0L F.I. Hydraulic Lifters
- 1973 Thing
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vws-microcars4jim Samba Member
Joined: September 25, 2005 Posts: 337 Location: Chicago
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Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2022 7:12 am Post subject: Re: Optima battery |
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Obus,
Sorry to hear of your battery issue. I'm having good luck w Interstates in over a dozen current vehicles, but maintenance is key. I pull most of my vehicle's batteries indoors for the winter and tend them, roll the dice with the ones left in. Unmaintained they will all discharge/freeze.
Can you warranty your Interstate? I use an MT-41 (modern VW style) battery in my Thing as the posts are dropped and miss the springs/hoops. I make sure the supplied positive side plastic cover is on. Some minor battery hold down mod may be needed, but not much. I have not had much success with side-post batteries, even in their OEM applications. The screw-in terminals are prone to loosen or make a poor connection, in my experience.
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