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pastellgreen Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2012 Posts: 1049 Location: Germany
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 12:57 pm Post subject: early 40hp: adjusting screws don't meet valve shaft properly |
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During assembely of an early 40hp engine I wonder why the adjusting screws don't meet the valve shaft as I would think they should and I know from the 36hp and 30hp engines. I would like to concentrate on the sideward offset given through the VW bulletin, but it isn't really possible as the adjusting screws hardly meet the valve shaft end. They nearly hit the edges of the shaft ends. For my taste, the rocker shaft sits too far downwards.
This is observed at the current cylinderheads with index "B" with retrofitted original VW short studs, I also keep the original heads with no index in their original condition an there it is absolutely the same. Also, the adjusting srews are nearly set at the end, there are only maximum two turns left.
Is this normal?
For me it should look like this:
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Bonesberg55 Samba Member
Joined: January 18, 2012 Posts: 1270
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 1:47 pm Post subject: Re: early 40hp: adjusting screws don't meet valve shaft properly |
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The adjusting screw center being offset is to aid in the rotation of the valve. |
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pastellgreen Samba Member
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 3:44 pm Post subject: Re: early 40hp: adjusting screws don't meet valve shaft properly |
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Rich Latsch wrote: |
The adjusting screw center being offset is to aid in the rotation of the valve. |
Yes I now, but my question was not about this. It is offset in height and not sidewards as it should. |
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MrGoodtunes Samba Member
Joined: May 14, 2012 Posts: 852 Location: South Florida
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2022 5:32 pm Post subject: Re: early 40hp: adjusting screws don't meet valve shaft properly |
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Rocker geometry can be affected by pushrod length, spacers where rocker shaft mounts, as well as along shaft between rockers. Good luck!! |
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pastellgreen Samba Member
Joined: January 06, 2012 Posts: 1049 Location: Germany
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 10:24 am Post subject: Re: early 40hp: adjusting screws don't meet valve shaft properly |
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MrGoodtunes wrote: |
Rocker geometry can be affected by pushrod length, spacers where rocker shaft mounts, as well as along shaft between rockers. Good luck!! |
Ok, right, but this is still not the point. Before disassembly the engine was in an untouched original condition. On both kinds of cylidner heads, before and after the assembly, it's the same picture. I have no choice and leave it as is, just wonder if someone else observed the same thing. |
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MrGoodtunes Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:50 pm Post subject: Re: early 40hp: adjusting screws don't meet valve shaft properly |
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Did you split the case and inspect lifters? When I rebuilt my 1500 to 1600, lifters were so worn as to be concave (instead of convex as they should be) where they ride on cam lobes. This might explain your need to extend rocker adjusters out so far as to make them contact valve stem ends too low? There are engine builders with way more experience in the performance forum, maybe post your issue here:
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewforum.php?f=12 |
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pastellgreen Samba Member
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2022 12:59 pm Post subject: Re: early 40hp: adjusting screws don't meet valve shaft properly |
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Thanks for your input. Independend, I can turn the adjusting screw in and out, it never comes to a position I would think is normal.
My hope here is that Glutamodo or Rome come with their early 40hp experience telling me it is just normal. |
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Slow 1200 Samba Member
Joined: July 02, 2004 Posts: 2106
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 2:40 am Post subject: Re: early 40hp: adjusting screws don't meet valve shaft properly |
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are the rocker blocks upside down by chance? |
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pastellgreen Samba Member
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Posted: Tue May 17, 2022 9:13 am Post subject: Re: early 40hp: adjusting screws don't meet valve shaft properly |
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will check it.
Got back today an engine block of a 1962 engine I already know and have driven for two years. I will have a close look on the situation there, as the cylinder heads are also old ones. |
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pastellgreen Samba Member
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Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 10:22 am Post subject: Re: early 40hp: adjusting screws don't meet valve shaft properly |
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Today I had time to look under the valve covers of the 1962 engine. The same story, so it seems to be original like that. Only difference was, the blocks for the rocker shaft have a bevel. Perhaps they improved the alignment for the adjusting screws with cylinder head index "C". |
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