Distributor condenser issue - square peg, round hole?

[73SlowBug]

Is my distributor missing something or is this the wrong condenser? I've been running a Bosch 009 for years now, and lucked up recently on a factory Bosch 0 231 167 049. I went to Napa to get points/condenser for it. The points fit just fine. But with the condenser, there doesn't seem to be a way to secure it to the distributor. On the Bosch 009, the condenser has little forks that stick out and hold the condenser in place. Should the 049 have something similar? Or is this just the wrong condenser? The Napa site says this one is "guaranteed to fit", but, it just doesn't seem to. I think it would fit my 009. Am I missing something, either in parts or in understanding?

Can I make it work by just cutting the connectors and running a butt connector through the hole?

Also, last question, the retard on my canister is blown out, but the advance works. When I finally get this running, am I correct in assuming I can run advance only, and time at 7.5° like an svda?

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[cletus_zuber]

There's a little "fork" piece that's held on by that screw that the plastic grommet fits into. One of the distributor rebuilders on here will probably have one available. You can see it in this pic.

And yes you can time it like a SVDA, vac line unplugged 28-32° BTDC at full rpm.
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[glutamodo]

You might have a look at the Bosch Tune Up Charts that I compiled myself using only VW and Bosch publications.

https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/manuals/bosch_tune_up_parts.php

Yes, different 70s era distributors used different condensers and the round hole vs square hole was a main difference along with the condenser having the bracket for the condenser or if that bracket was a separate part.

I'll quote the text from my pdf document linked to above, these list Bosch's warehousing "short" part number and not the full long number. Look in that pdf for more detail.

[73SlowBug]

Perfect. I'll do some digging. I searched on all the big vw sites I normally buy parts from, but nothing came up for "distributor fork".
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[Glenn]

On some condensers the clips is part of it.

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[73SlowBug]

I found an old one in my glove box. I don't remember putting it there's but there it was! It fits now. It runs much smoother. I'm running advance only.
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[heimlich]

Here are the ones with the attached fork. One is for round holes and the other for square.

https://vwnos.com/02-086

https://vwnos.com/02-039

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[glutamodo]

And these images from the 1974/75 Bosch Fast Moving Parts books. To which I added VW part numbers and Bosch's later short numbers.

Round hole with integral mounting bracket were not that common as they were only on Autostick and Type 3 distributors. The more common Beetle DVDA and SVDAs had condensers with a separate bracket and the condenser would mount over at one of the vacuum canister screws.

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