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Infidel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2005 Posts: 80 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 3:22 pm Post subject: Can I put second coat to address the orange peel from first? |
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Sprayed my car this weekend (first time painting). Learned that heavy application resulted in much smoother finish, but I was having issues with gun that resulted in orange peel. I think I have gun issues resolved, and have paint/car set up to lay a heavy final coat on the main body panel.
Do I need to sand that orange peel, or will a heavy second coat cover it pretty well?
Single stage enamel, plenty of CFM.
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Dan the workingstiff Samba Member
Joined: July 03, 2006 Posts: 824 Location: Downriver, MI
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Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 3:45 pm Post subject: Re: Can I put second coat to address the orange peel from first? |
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Sand it smooth _________________ '69 Beetle
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bomberbob Samba Member
Joined: May 17, 2015 Posts: 688 Location: Iowa
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Can I put second coat to address the orange peel from first? |
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How many coats of paint did you apply, or more specifically, how thick is the paint on the car? Orange peel is to be expected, even brand new cars have a certain degree of orange peel, even painted by robots.
The key is to lay down enough paint so you can cut and buff, and still have enough paint left. I think you could put the gun down and use a paint roller, or paint brush and as long as you put enough paint down, cut and buff and nobody would be able to tell. It would be a lot or work to clean up a messy paint brush job, but its possible.Previous post is correct if there is enough paint. If you burn through to primer, then you will need to spray more. _________________ 1968 Beetle (storage)
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Infidel Samba Member
Joined: January 22, 2005 Posts: 80 Location: Austin, TX
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Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: Can I put second coat to address the orange peel from first? |
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I started sanding just to be safe, and kept going lower, and lower, and lower. Went all the way to 150 before I really felt like I was knocking things down/smooth. And there were some places where I got through to my sealer/primer. I don't think I needed to sand, a heavy coat would/did cover.
I foolishly thought the 600 ml of paint I had left would do it, nope. Also watched some youtube videos that basically said to put it on heavy for a wet/glossy finish, and don't worry about runs, because runs can be corrected easier than a dry-look/orange peel. So that's what I tried to do. Not bad, a few runs, but only got 1/3 of the car done. Waiting on another gallon of paint and will lay it on heavy again when I start back up, but try to keep it in the sweet spot so it doesn't run.
Also added a bit of slow reducer, as that was advised to get more of a wet look and flow, and painting in 80° Texas heat. _________________ 1972 Ghia |
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Braukuche Samba Member
Joined: September 03, 2004 Posts: 10965
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Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 11:06 pm Post subject: Re: Can I put second coat to address the orange peel from first? |
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Infidel wrote: |
I started sanding just to be safe, and kept going lower, and lower, and lower. Went all the way to 150 before I really felt like I was knocking things down/smooth. And there were some places where I got through to my sealer/primer. I don't think I needed to sand, a heavy coat would/did cover.
I foolishly thought the 600 ml of paint I had left would do it, nope. Also watched some youtube videos that basically said to put it on heavy for a wet/glossy finish, and don't worry about runs, because runs can be corrected easier than a dry-look/orange peel. So that's what I tried to do. Not bad, a few runs, but only got 1/3 of the car done. Waiting on another gallon of paint and will lay it on heavy again when I start back up, but try to keep it in the sweet spot so it doesn't run.
Also added a bit of slow reducer, as that was advised to get more of a wet look and flow, and painting in 80° Texas heat. |
Runs will often leave a shadow after sanding I believe from air bubbles that form and get trapped as the paint dries. I try to avoid any runs in my first two coats so if one forms after I can sand the shadows out. _________________ Go Reds! Smash state!
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1959 SO-23 Westfalia
1960 double cab
1960 Baja Bug
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scrivyscriv Samba Electrician
Joined: October 04, 2011 Posts: 2918 Location: Memphis
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Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 3:03 am Post subject: Re: Can I put second coat to address the orange peel from first? |
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Ideally you would sand down what's on there now, at least to knock down the major high spots. The orange peel will make the topcoat film thickness vary quite a bit which would be an issue when/if you do any sanding on that coat.. you'll start to see the orange peel crowns as you sand. _________________ Robert in Memphis
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