EMPI IDA "space saver" manifolds

[motomwo]

Has anyone seen any dyno testing results using these EMPI ida manifolds? (Circled in red) Anyone using these currently and have you experienced any tuning problems? The manifold for the 1-2 side has a big dog leg. I was looking at these only because I would like to run air cleaner/filters and still be able to close the deck lid on either my 61 or 66 bug.

Marty

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1961 Bug, 2276 cb wedge ports 44x37 11.1 comp fk10 1.5 rockers 48idf's 1 3/4" header Rancho pro street trans SAW axles Airkewld 4# narrowed beam, Koni shocks, Airkewld dis brake all around. 5.5/4.5 BRMs

1966 Bug, 2127, panchito heads, fk8, 1.3 rockers, dual 44idfs, 1 5/8 merge header, Rancho pro strt flyer, empi axles, Airkewld's 4" beam and discs all around and adjustable shocks. 4.5 & 5.5 BRMs

[fuguboy]

I would think the other 631 short manifold is better, kinda obviously uneven runner length.

[RCP Phx]

That's a equation just asking for problems!

[slalombuggy]

The runs are so short I doubt anything will show up on a dyno.

[bugguy1967]

Silly silly design. Find something straighter.
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[Lingwendil]

Why bother running IDAs just to hobble them with a 90 degree turn directly under the throttle plate?
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[motomwo]

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[nextgen]

Keep looking I am sure there are other brands that save space.

I have a set of cast iron, lowering space savers. They were for my Dells.

Could not adjust my carbs with the stock 914 manifolds that came with my carbs they were too high but beautiful aluminum. Got them from Claude's Bugs
30 years ago.

But I would think you can get for mostly any well known carbs.
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[67rustavenger]

Are Jay-Cee intake manifolds to tall?

Sorry for the bad pic.
It's the best an old man can do when holding a tape measure and trying to take a pic.
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[motomwo]

Thank you posting the pictures. Those would probably work depending on the air filters used. I am looking for pictures of this style size of manifolds with air filters installed in the bug.
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1961 Bug, 2276 cb wedge ports 44x37 11.1 comp fk10 1.5 rockers 48idf's 1 3/4" header Rancho pro street trans SAW axles Airkewld 4# narrowed beam, Koni shocks, Airkewld dis brake all around. 5.5/4.5 BRMs

1966 Bug, 2127, panchito heads, fk8, 1.3 rockers, dual 44idfs, 1 5/8 merge header, Rancho pro strt flyer, empi axles, Airkewld's 4" beam and discs all around and adjustable shocks. 4.5 & 5.5 BRMs

[motomwo]

Doing some more looking around and found this thread talking about the same thing that Dan Ruddock started.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=585481&highlight=ida+filters
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1961 Bug, 2276 cb wedge ports 44x37 11.1 comp fk10 1.5 rockers 48idf's 1 3/4" header Rancho pro street trans SAW axles Airkewld 4# narrowed beam, Koni shocks, Airkewld dis brake all around. 5.5/4.5 BRMs

1966 Bug, 2127, panchito heads, fk8, 1.3 rockers, dual 44idfs, 1 5/8 merge header, Rancho pro strt flyer, empi axles, Airkewld's 4" beam and discs all around and adjustable shocks. 4.5 & 5.5 BRMs

[motomwo]

Here is something that would work I think with the short style manifolds. The manifolds in this picture look "tall" to me. Are they the tall or short manifolds?

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1961 Bug, 2276 cb wedge ports 44x37 11.1 comp fk10 1.5 rockers 48idf's 1 3/4" header Rancho pro street trans SAW axles Airkewld 4# narrowed beam, Koni shocks, Airkewld dis brake all around. 5.5/4.5 BRMs

1966 Bug, 2127, panchito heads, fk8, 1.3 rockers, dual 44idfs, 1 5/8 merge header, Rancho pro strt flyer, empi axles, Airkewld's 4" beam and discs all around and adjustable shocks. 4.5 & 5.5 BRMs

[motomwo]

[67rustavenger]

Sadly, No!
I tried to get the post office to retrieve them. But they refused to help.
Money gone down the drain.
It happens in this hobby. I figure karma will get the vendor, sooner or later.

I'm going a completely different direction this time around.
So I have no need for the Ram-Flow filters, anymore!

If you like a pair, Ohio Tom has/had a set that he offered me, in the background.
Maybe he still has them for sale.
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GFY's Xevin and VW_Jimbo!

[Glenn]

real DDS shorties in a 67.

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