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peaceful warrior
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 Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 2:31 pm Post subject: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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87 Syncro Tintop of which I am getting prepared to install a Reimo Turret top.
I do intend to build cabinets that will cover both side D-pillars and maybe a headache cabinet. Will also be converting rear interior into a custom Westfalia interior....no sink, fridge but more storage.
But I have to remove the overhead AC ducts and I have decided to remove it all as I have never used the AC in 12 years of owning this Syncro.
So, my questions are:
1. What to do with ducting and relays/fuses in D pillar on the drivers side?
2. System is evacuated, so can I pull all of the hoses or cut them in the D pillar area and cut inside the engine bay?
3. What to do about electrical?
Anyone have experience doing this? Help!
Photos for assistance.
Thank you.
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peaceful warrior
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 3:11 pm Post subject: Re: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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| djkeev wrote: |
Many have removed the A/C from their Van.
It is advised to do it neatly for there is a growing demand for used A/C including the engine mounting parts.
Save it and offer it for sale or in the karma thread.
The A/C wiring is separate from the main harness and it can be completely removed without problems.
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Already got an inquiry to parts before any help! 
Okay on the electrical side and I assumed I could test it all now that it is exposed but how to remove the AC hoses without cutting them? Seems no way to do so. I do have all of the under frame hoses and mounting for the engine as I removed the compressor a few years ago.
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| Posted: Fri May 27, 2022 4:12 pm Post subject: Re: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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The rarest part is the harness with the two resistors in the upper cabinet.
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 7:44 am Post subject: Re: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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| djkeev wrote: |
Cut the hoses.
They are worthless.
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Good to know. I was hesitant to cut them.
Thanks Dave.
BTW, the wiring I assume can be traced, unplugged, etc without causing other issues? Guessing it is all isolated?
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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This is a great thread. No one trying to talk the OP into keeping the AC; just giving advice on what he wants. Refreshing.
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| Posted: Sat May 28, 2022 11:20 am Post subject: Re: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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| DuncanS wrote: |
This is a great thread. No one trying to talk the OP into keeping the AC; just giving advice on what he wants. Refreshing.
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Obviously, keeping that AC system with an intended high top install makes no sense. But the parts are still valuable to those trying to keep this 30+ year-old feature working. Removing them with some care makes this possible.
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 5:38 am Post subject: Re: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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I wonder why this unit is no longer available? https://www.reimo.com/en/3742/lift-top-universal-standard-1050-mechanics-white If it were made in a longer version you could still have loft sleeping and a significant amount of additional interior volume when up. If it were 20% more towards a hightop from a standard Westy top, it would have tons of on the road storage in the back portion as well.
And if there were a two part top the front extra 8 ish inches could either house an AC unit or provide extra stowage. It doesn't sound like it would be that tough to do. Cut a donor top top down the middle and across to make a mold/buck, splash some fiberglass on, and hand it in. The top wouldn't need to be welded, just sheet rock screw the parts to some 2x4s to hold it together while glassing.
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| Posted: Sun May 29, 2022 7:01 pm Post subject: Re: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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| If you cut the hoses out, keep the fittings to go along with the other parts. I had new hoses made last year and they used the old fittings (welded them on). |
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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| DuncanS wrote: |
I wonder why this unit is no longer available? https://www.reimo.com/en/3742/lift-top-universal-standard-1050-mechanics-white If it were made in a longer version you could still have loft sleeping and a significant amount of additional interior volume when up. If it were 20% more towards a hightop from a standard Westy top, it would have tons of on the road storage in the back portion as well.
And if there were a two part top the front extra 8 ish inches could either house an AC unit or provide extra stowage. It doesn't sound like it would be that tough to do. Cut a donor top top down the middle and across to make a mold/buck, splash some fiberglass on, and hand it in. The top wouldn't need to be welded, just sheet rock screw the parts to some 2x4s to hold it together while glassing.
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Thank you but I am happy with my decision and I know how I use the Syncro for camping. Usually just me and one dog primitive road camping when I go fly fishing. Spouse does not like this kind of camping.
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 10:59 am Post subject: Re: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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| If you cut the hoses out, keep the fittings to go along with the other parts. I had new hoses made last year and they used the old fittings (welded them on). |
I saved everything! The wiring is all removed and sold already.
Last piece I have to remove is the front unit above the dash.
Interesting removal and I appreciate the help from Dave and Joel, especially the phone calls. Thank you both!
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| Posted: Tue May 31, 2022 11:04 am Post subject: Re: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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Now that you've got that out of the way you should redye the headliner. It makes a world of difference.
It is so much fun to give other people more work to do.  |
In what way? I may pull the rails out of the 1980 Westy parts car I have and install baltic birch panel for the ceiling? May be!
You are most welcome Dave. Glad they are going to you to help finish your project.
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| Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2022 12:13 pm Post subject: Re: Removing AC unit to install Reimo Turret top questions |
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| dobryan wrote: |
| I used SEM vinyl dye spray on my euroBus and the Syncro headliners and it was amazing how it brightened up the interior. You can find the details in the topics in my sig. |
Got it, will check it out!
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