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Lars B Samba Member
Joined: May 19, 2006 Posts: 205 Location: Sweden
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2022 3:04 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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The oval bow differs from the split.
And i cant understand what to measure, from your picture. |
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2Dokas Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2004 Posts: 750 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2022 5:12 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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2Dokas wrote: |
Metal bow measurements needed:
I posted this question in the bodywork forum but didn't get the measurements.
I came across this image in the classified and sent it to the owner but never heard back.
Hoping someone has theirs somewhat apart and available so I can fab a new bow.
I am hoping the tops didn't change too much from a split to an oval
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Lars B wrote: |
The oval bow differs from the split.
And i cant understand what to measure, from your picture. |
The metal bow (bow 2).
Measurement C = distance from the ends of the flat bar sections where the round tube connects.
Measurement A = The height of the flat bar where the round tube starts.
Measurement B = If I laid a flat bar across the bow at the ends of the flat bar, what is the distance to the top of the round tube
From measurements A and C I can pretty well bend the flat bar to shape, all though having the actual distance of the flat bar from the rivet to where it starts to bend would be great.
Let me know if that makes sense.
thanks _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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Lars B Samba Member
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Posted: Sat Jan 08, 2022 12:22 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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This is from my 56 Oval
A 31cm
B 13 cm
C 101cm
Measured from this line |
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2Dokas Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jan 09, 2022 8:44 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Lars B wrote: |
This is from my 56 Oval
A 31cm
B 13 cm
C 101cm
Measured from this line |
Lars, thank you so much, that first image is wonderful!, But also raises another question.....
The bow leans forward. I know this is a lot to ask, but could you drop a plumb bob from the center of the round tube and measure the distance back to the bow attachment? Measurement D
_________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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Lars B Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 7:01 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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D=5cm
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2Dokas Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Jan 10, 2022 12:30 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Super!
How's your project coming along?
thanks again
Peter _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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Lars B Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:51 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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2Dokas wrote: |
Super!
How's your project coming along?
thanks again
Peter |
Well, it's up and running, got it inspected two years ago. and drove quite a lot last year. Now it's time to get the top mounted.
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2Dokas Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Lars B wrote: |
2Dokas wrote: |
Super!
How's your project coming along?
thanks again
Peter |
Well, it's up and running, got it inspected two years ago. and drove quite a lot last year. Now it's time to get the top mounted.
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Beautiful color and stance.
I hope you have a chance to document the top installation.
Peter _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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Lars B Samba Member
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Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 8:16 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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2Dokas wrote: |
Lars B wrote: |
2Dokas wrote: |
Super!
How's your project coming along?
thanks again
Peter |
Well, it's up and running, got it inspected two years ago. and drove quite a lot last year. Now it's time to get the top mounted.
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Beautiful color and stance.
I hope you have a chance to document the top installation.
Peter |
Try stopping me |
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ovalvert56 Samba Member
Joined: December 14, 2019 Posts: 3 Location: België
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 11:45 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Lars B Samba Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 12:34 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Nice looking Vert.... |
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BulliBill Samba Member
Joined: July 09, 2004 Posts: 4561 Location: St Charles, MO
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Posted: Fri Mar 04, 2022 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Lars B wrote: |
2Dokas wrote: |
Lars B wrote: |
2Dokas wrote: |
Super!
How's your project coming along?
thanks again
Peter |
Well, it's up and running, got it inspected two years ago. and drove quite a lot last year. Now it's time to get the top mounted.
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Beautiful color and stance.
I hope you have a chance to document the top installation.
Peter |
Try stopping me |
Awesome Lars! A lot of us out here with 1956-'57 Ovals will really appreciate you documenting your top build when you get to it. Any info on your suppliers, the hard parts, the easy parts, any "tricks" to doing the install will only help all of us when we start our roofs! Thanks for documenting it all!
I recently purchased almost all of the wood bows and pieces for the top in my 1957 Kabriolett from Chuck's Convertibles. I held my breath until they arrived, and when they did, I am pretty happy. The pieces look beautifully made and the wood quality looks to be very nice. I am nowhere near the point of putting one of my roof frames onto the car and trial fitting the new wood, so I can't yet report on how precise the shapes and holes drilled for the mounting hardware line up, but I suspect that all will be fine! Here are some of the wooden goodies:
I have one top frame that has no wood (just the metal top frame and latches) that was restored and powder-coated by Chuck that I bought from him when I purchased the Kab (which came to me all apart and with an incorrect mid '60's top frame not mounted to the Kab) way back in 1994. Still stored in the box:
In the late 1990's I ran into and purchased another decent top frame with original worn bows and tattered upholstery in a Seattle Vintage Meet swap meet and shipped it home for storage and future dissection and analysis. The best top will eventually be built with Chuck's wood bow kit and upholstery...
Bill _________________ I'm looking for these license plate frames for my fleet:
Coeur D'Alene - Lake Shore Volkswagen
Mission VW - San Fernando
Thornton VW - Stockton
Thanks for any help!
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ovalvert56 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:02 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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I bought the '56 vert about 3 years ago in Belgium, was registered for last 20 years on the Belgium roads, but in '56 sold in Germany. As you can see there is a lot of work to do. Had in the ninety's a restoration in Germany, with the wrong heather channels
and very bad welding skills. Original color is Iris bleu. I hope finish the vert next year and drive with to Bad Camberg, Germany
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ovalvert56 Samba Member
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Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2022 10:56 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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I bought the '56 vert about 3 years ago in Belgium, was registered for last 20 years on the Belgium roads, but in '56 sold in Germany. As you can see there is a lot of work to do. Had in the ninety's a restoration in Germany, with the wrong heather channels
and very bad welding skills. Original color is Iris bleu. I hope finish the vert next year and drive with to Bad Camberg, Germany
thanks Lars! |
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grailoc Samba Member
Joined: March 25, 2004 Posts: 1433 Location: FRANCE and now QUEBEC city
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2Dokas Samba Member
Joined: October 09, 2004 Posts: 750 Location: Santa Cruz, CA
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2022 5:28 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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I have a second top that I am sure is not an oval. I posted a request for any information on the year(s) so I can sell it properly.
If you have any interest, here is the thread
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=...highlight= _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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bally Samba Member
Joined: April 29, 2006 Posts: 1182 Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Posted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:47 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Has anyone modified a sedan rear seat back to fit a Kabriolet? |
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Lars B Samba Member
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bally Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 4:48 am Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Thanks Lars, that is very useful
Dave |
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2Dokas Samba Member
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2022 1:27 pm Post subject: Re: Official Oval Convertibles thread and Registry |
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Still working on my top bow but the windows are first.
The door channels are a mess, I am going to wait to see what I can do about those however, I did find a set of rear frames that I was able to fix.
I have the rubber gaskets for the glass (WW), the glass and the frame.
Having installed several parts upside down or backwards I think its best to ask a simple question or two:
1. Can I assume that I will cut the rubber at a 45 at the 90 degree bend?
2. Install the rubber onto the glass rather than into the channel.
2b. Glue onto the rubber? Seems like it will stay put once in the channel and held in by the 2 bolts
3. I am going to have to pull on the curved end to get the glass and the rubber into the channel..
Taking them apart https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=393100. (2010) is when I took these bad boys apart. Ruptured disks are a bitch
Cheers
Peter _________________ 87 Doka 2WD Ej22,
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