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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

Coming soon to BaT: 1964 Ghia Cabrio, approx. Feb. '64 build, L87 Pearl White, brick red interior, stock 1200 cc 40 hp. From Bill S in central Connecticut.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Coming soon to BaT...

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Coming soon to BaT: 1964 Ghia Cabrio, approx. Feb. '64 build, L87 Pearl White, brick red interior, stock 1200 cc 40 hp. From Bill S in central Connecticut.
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Look out for some heavy hitters!😎
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

1971 Coupe went for $15k
I think it was a nice result for both parties!
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-27/
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 5:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

Next up is a 1969 Coupe.
Looks like an original survivor 😎
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-19/
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 12:40 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Next up is a 1969 Coupe.
Looks like an original survivor 😎
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-19/


Obvious the interior is 100 percent original. I think the paint is too except for the repaired sections. I can’t see any overspray or delamination or bondo cliffs but maybe I’m missing something? Mechanicals look like they need some love. This one should sell for big money.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

Interior is not 100% original..............What about the carpet? It appears as not original and Installed improperly (look at photographs). It still seems to be a nice Ghia, but I question the seat upholstry and the carpet.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2022 11:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Interior is not 100% original..............What about the carpet? It appears as not original and Installed improperly (look at photographs). It still seems to be a nice Ghia, but I question the seat upholstry and the carpet.


Carpet is 100% original.
Notice the cross hatch like pattern on the rub pads, no one reproduces that. The edging and small weave wool carpets are not reproduced either that I am aware of.
Yes, the carpets have pealed off the surface as the glue has failed over the years and someone used what looks to be self tapping screws to keep them in place, but they can be removed and properly glued.
I was totally wrong about the paint. Seller notes it was repainted.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:07 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Interior is not 100% original..............What about the carpet? It appears as not original and Installed improperly (look at photographs). It still seems to be a nice Ghia, but I question the seat upholstry and the carpet.


Carpet is 100% original.
Notice the cross hatch like pattern on the rub pads, no one reproduces that. The edging and small weave wool carpets are not reproduced either that I am aware of.
Yes, the carpets have pealed off the surface as the glue has failed over the years and someone used what looks to be self tapping screws to keep them in place, but they can be removed and properly glued.
I was totally wrong about the paint. Seller notes it was repainted.


Not reproduced now but it was as a ZVW in the 1970s. It may be original, certainly not questioning the integrity of the current owner but VW usually had their interior pieces sewn straight and not all crooked. I owned a 1969 Ghia that was 1 year old and the color elm green which matches this came with black or fawn color interior. This is a case of me wanting to , and I did, buy a new Ghia in 1972 which I remember was elm green (or there abouts) and a fawn color interior. Carpet was fawn also.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:13 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Interior is not 100% original..............What about the carpet? It appears as not original and Installed improperly (look at photographs). It still seems to be a nice Ghia, but I question the seat upholstry and the carpet.


All of the interior is factory correct in my opinion. I compared these photos to my 68 and it all matches perfectly. The condition of the interior is amazing. Nobody is making these later Ghia interiors that even come close to accurately reproducing these details.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 10:55 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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I owned a 1969 Ghia that was 1 year old and the color elm green which matches this came with black or fawn color interior. This is a case of me wanting to , and I did, buy a new Ghia in 1972 which I remember was elm green (or there abouts) and a fawn color interior. Carpet was fawn also.


The only green available for 69 was L62K Cypress Green, which came with either Light Sand or Khaki Brown interior.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/info/paintcodesghia.php
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2022 11:42 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

kingkarmann wrote:
Next up is a 1969 Coupe.
Looks like an original survivor 😎
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-volkswagen-karmann-ghia-19/

My car's twin (my car being slightly older). There aren't too many pictures of Cypress Green out there and all the pics posted serve as good reference photo should I decide to restore my Ghia back to original.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

Our controversial BAT lowlight has become a flippers dream Crying or Very sad
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-volkswagen-karmann-ghia/

Someone wants to unload it at the August Monterey Auctions
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/vehicles?utf8=%E2%9C%93&ftx=karmann
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:05 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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Our controversial BAT lowlight has become a flippers dream Crying or Very sad
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-volkswagen-karmann-ghia/

Someone wants to unload it at the August Monterey Auctions
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/vehicles?utf8=%E2%9C%93&ftx=karmann


No reserve auction! This should be interesting. Would you buy it if the price was so low?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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kingkarmann wrote:
Our controversial BAT lowlight has become a flippers dream Crying or Very sad
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-volkswagen-karmann-ghia/

Someone wants to unload it at the August Monterey Auctions
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/vehicles?utf8=%E2%9C%93&ftx=karmann


No reserve auction! This should be interesting. Would you buy it if the price was so low?



What do you mean "if the price was so low" What is a (low) price?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

wheel607 wrote:
JAL78 wrote:
kingkarmann wrote:
Our controversial BAT lowlight has become a flippers dream Crying or Very sad
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-volkswagen-karmann-ghia/

Someone wants to unload it at the August Monterey Auctions
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/vehicles?utf8=%E2%9C%93&ftx=karmann


No reserve auction! This should be interesting. Would you buy it if the price was so low?



What do you mean "if the price was so low" What is a (low) price?


Well the advertised estimate is one for the non-Ghia frat but at the same time a slap in the face for all those restorers who do it right.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 8:28 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

wheel607 wrote:
JAL78 wrote:
kingkarmann wrote:
Our controversial BAT lowlight has become a flippers dream Crying or Very sad
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-volkswagen-karmann-ghia/

Someone wants to unload it at the August Monterey Auctions
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/vehicles?utf8=%E2%9C%93&ftx=karmann


No reserve auction! This should be interesting. Would you buy it if the price was so low?



What do you mean "if the price was so low" What is a (low) price?


Sorry! maybe not enough coffee yet! Being a No Reserve auction, the question is would anybody consider buying it with its known horrible stigma if the price was right?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 9:55 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

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wheel607 wrote:
JAL78 wrote:
kingkarmann wrote:
Our controversial BAT lowlight has become a flippers dream Crying or Very sad
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1958-volkswagen-karmann-ghia/

Someone wants to unload it at the August Monterey Auctions
https://www.broadarrowauctions.com/vehicles?utf8=%E2%9C%93&ftx=karmann


No reserve auction! This should be interesting. Would you buy it if the price was so low?



What do you mean "if the price was so low" What is a (low) price?


Sorry! maybe not enough coffee yet! Being a No Reserve auction, the question is would anybody consider buying it with its known horrible stigma if the price was right?


That turd sold for $68k at Barrett, my guess is the owner figured out it was screwy and is trying to dump it on some other unsuspecting chump.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2022 11:09 am    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

Your blunt comments and responses are so true and always cracks me up!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Karmanns & Bring-a-Trailer Auctions Reply with quote

That 69 went for $23k, buyer got a good deal.
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