Scored a local ‘65 Deluxe, The Monster

[richparker]

[67rustavenger]

[richparker]

Here’s where I’m at. Everything is installed except the cams and a breather hose. I just gotta hook up the tow bar and I’ll be on the road at 8:30 am to the VW shop.

I really need to paint that rust spot. 😳
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[richparker]

I hooked the car up to the tow bar and took it to the shop this morning. My truck had no issues towing the car, being 65° out definitely helped. Hung out at the shop for a couple of hours, but while we tweaked some things and my guy tuned and synced the carbs. They were actually pretty close and didn’t need too much work. He didn’t change anything and he set them up as they were. The car definitely runs like a scolded cat now! Holy shit is my engine “woke” now….😂 We took it for a nice run on the highway, it pulled the gears with ease and had no issues maintaining 70 up the 6% grade hill we climbed. At the top of the hill I stopped, the engine held idle and seemed happy. I grabbed my IR gun and the engine temps seemed to be 15° cooler then they were with the Kaddies.

Time to start trending fuel mileage and temps. I’m sure I’ll report back with my data and videos of it running.

Here’s a pic of everything all set up.

I love that I can flat tow this car with my Frontier!

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[67rustavenger]

Sweet! Glad to hear that you have it all sorted.

Funny, I have never added a throttle return spring on any of my dual carbed engines. It seems that the carb springs provided enough return action. To not warrant the installation. Your car your choices.

Regarding the 6° grade drive. I have a tired 1679 that could pull those grades in 4th at 80 MPH! But I had to get a run at it to get things rolling.

Have fun and try to avoid getting a ticket. BTDT
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[richparker]

[richparker]

It’s been a week with the new carbs and so far I can say they are awesome! There is no sweet talking them to fire up. Two pumps of the pedal, they fire right up and idle. Although I do understand it is summer and winter will be different. The power difference from the Kaddies to these is unbelievable, the car really moves now! So far I’m getting 19 mpg, which is up a little from the Kaddies and I’m not being easy on it. I’m rowing the gears in town and cruising 65-70 on the highway. I bet if I’m easy on it, I could easily get it into the low to mid 20s.

The only issue I have have run into is the idle screws have been backing off. I fixed that with a jam nuts, since I’ve installed those the idle has remained constant.

This was a goooooood decision!
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[mtnbus]

Nice work Richie......that car is so sweet. stoked for you

Ill bet that rattle can grey would come off

It would be freaking so sick to have the og BLACK paint some day.... Its there....right ?

[Dan Ruddock]

Did your builder use 1.0 40hp rocker arms? That’s what I recommend for the cam your using for a street engine. Will increase valve train life. Don’t want to flame anybody, just trying to help. VZ cams are best suited for off road class racing. Your adjuster failure does not surprise me.

[richparker]

Let’s update this thread.

First up.

[Dan Ruddock]

I would change over to 1.0 40hp rockers, they are avalible in the samba classifieds for cheap. They will lengthen your trains life. Race cams belong in race engines. I would not call 4k miles as a confirmation of success. Dan

[richparker]

[Dan Ruddock]

I have a lot of respect Berg and learned a ton of valuable stuff from him, but this is one of the few things he got flat WRONG. Do what you want, will not be any harm to me if the train's life is short. I have seen many street use failures with the VZ series cams. The smaller ratio 1.0 rocker will not cause that much of a power loss to not justify using them. The smaller ratio will slow thing down. Valve train is my business.

Here is good advice from another respected vender John Connely at ACN.

The Engle VZ25 is a Stump Pulling cam for Off-Road engines. It is designed for 1.1 rockers ONLY. Specs are .429" Cam Lift, .470" Valve Lift (1.1 Rockers) 286 degrees of advertised duration, and 256 degrees of duration at .050", on a 108 Lobe Center.
The VZ Series of cams have a short valvetrain life due to super-fast ramps and high valve lift. Dual Springs are required! This cam has good bottom end, with more all around performance than the Engle 110 due to more valve lift. Ported head are strongly recommended, since the more headflow you have the better this cam will work! This cam runs from idle to 6000 RPM.

I will call this done; I have warned you, do what you want.

Dan

[fredybear]

Hey Rich...What cam are you using? Thought at the beginning it was a 110.

Is it a VZ 15, 25 or the Berg Equiv?

I have the VZ 25 in mine. pushin 190 tq at 4500

Dan also said my full flow system wouldn't work with a merged exhaust.

Looks beautiful to me.

How many miles is a short valve train life anyway? 16,324. 50,000 or?

[richparker]

[Dan Ruddock]

High Lift Competition Cams for 1.1's Only
Small Off-Road Comp VZ-14 .462" 274 .420" 108
Med. Off-Road Comp VZ-15 .478" 279 .435" 108
Midget/Cir Trk/Off Comp VZ-25 .470" 286 .429" 108
Drag/Comp. Off-Road VZ-30 .507" 298 .461" 108
Drag/Comp. Off-Road VZ-35 .490" 309 .448" 108

This is from Engles catolog, do you see any of these grinds listed for street use?

Sure the 1.1 rockers are recommended but it is intended for racing where the engine is regularly torn down. Using the 1.1 rockers gives the edge over the racer who uses a W120. The W120 is a good long life street cam.

Street/Buggy W-100 .420" 276 .383" 108
Hot Street/Buggy W-110 .430" 284 .392" 108
Hot Street/Buggy/Turbo W-120 .435" 294 .397" 108
Mild Drag/Buggy Comp. W-125 .460" 301 .418" 108
Drag/Buggy Competition W-130 .460" 308 .419" 108
Drag/Buggy Competition W-140 .465" 313 .424" 108

The lower ratio rocker gives you the kind of performance of a 110 or 120 without beating the train to death. Ever notice how noisy VZ cams are? There is a reason they are noisy; they slap the valve open and slam the valve down on the seat. Sure it will make more power. But is it worth it??? Engle know what they are doing.

There is only two valve covers and four nuts to swap out a set of rockers.

[richparker]

[richparker]

Worked on the bug over the past few days. The toe is off in the rear and it’s chewing up the outside of the rear tires rather quickly. So I jacked it up, pulled the tires and took them to the LTS. My buddy broke them down and swapped them so I could wear out the other side before I buy new tires. When I buy new tires I’ll get a 4 wheel alignment.

Since it was in the air I decided to degrease the transaxle and the underside of the engine. The transaxle leaks and there was gear oil everywhere. I sprayed engine degreaser on everything, let it soak for 15 minutes and sprayed it off with the hose. Looks a lot better now. While it was in the air I decided to top off the transaxle fluid, check the valves (they were perfect), adjust the clutch and the brakes. I also detailed the engine bay and vacuumed the interior.

Drove the car to the market this morning, it’s driving excellent!

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Got me a new anti-dazzle mirror from SoCal Imports. No more getting blinded at night for me!

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