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Miikel Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? |
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I have a Australian assembled 1960 bug, it has semaphores/early taillights 6V. After market blinkers have been installed and the semaphores have been disconnected. Can you run both?
Ive seen seen a few British cars (Jag, Morris) getting around that run both at the same time. I've been told you cant do it, but hey Ive seen it done, has anyone else done this?
Best Regards
Mike, Australia |
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57rat Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2007 Posts: 26 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:33 am Post subject: |
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Hi Mike, i have a 57 oval which i have modified my semaphores to flash as well as installed amber LEDs in the snowflake rear lights. I made a custom indicater circuit for it to work, so yes it is possible, Anton. |
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Miikel Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: Semaphores and similtaneous blinkers |
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Hello Anton,
Big cheers for the post, cool you got the semaphores to flash as well, with the cars Ive seen only the blinkers flash.
Nice one, Mike |
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John Moxon Samba Moderator
Joined: March 07, 2004 Posts: 13935 Location: Southampton U.K.
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Miikel Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:58 am Post subject: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? |
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Howdee John,
thanks for the wiring diagram, much appreciated.
Yeah your right people cant see jack and the others dont know what their looking at anyway, it would be nice to vaguely let people know I'm trying to turn a corner. Semaphores are illegal here, but hey people still do it.
Big Cheers, Mike |
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57rat Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2007 Posts: 26 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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Hey Mike , what rear lights are you using? |
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Miikel Samba Member
Joined: July 04, 2007 Posts: 4 Location: Melbourne Australia
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Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:03 am Post subject: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? |
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Howdee 57
Runs early snowflake tail lights, the last year here for this feature here, last year for semaphores and 36hp motors as well.
I changed to a 40hp motor recently, bit unfortunate, really wanted keep it all original, but I had to make a compromise at the time...still, the car purrs, so its not all bad.
Check it out.
http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/miikel/mike_vw.jpg
Anyhow, yeah sorry its not an oval but I hope you like it |
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57rat Samba Member
Joined: May 02, 2007 Posts: 26 Location: Sydney Australia
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Posted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:59 am Post subject: |
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Hi Mike, looks good luv the flash trim. |
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adaysnight Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2021 Posts: 88 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:36 pm Post subject: |
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what flasher units are you using? brand/part number would be of great help. thank you |
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Dan22 Samba Member
Joined: August 30, 2019 Posts: 450 Location: Battle Ground, WA
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Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:14 am Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? |
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And how do you work the brake lights into this method? Run separate stop lights? _________________ 1-0900722 die langsame grüne Schildkröte
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/forum/viewtopic.php?t=765074 |
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JPB1 Samba Member
Joined: May 31, 2017 Posts: 52 Location: Hawaii
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Bub Samba Member
Joined: June 10, 2004 Posts: 1143 Location: Central Washington
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Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:54 pm Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? |
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I will tell you the most straight forward way to do it without modifying anything or doing a ton of wiring is to grab an old accessory switch with the flashing tip.
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2337653
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=2304103
These typically have duplicate right and left circuits- so you can run one RT / LT circuit directly to the semaphores alone.
And the other RT/LT circuits through a flasher to the brake lights. It took me quite a bit of trial and error but it does work. The white one is the exact one I have in my 54'. _________________
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Had a girlfriend once who shall we say, nearly arrived at the mere sight of a semaphore in action- easy to please she was... |
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pig-pen Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2012 Posts: 570 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:32 am Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? |
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So I have done it.. flashing semas, turn signals and a hazard circuit that does not run the semas... Its pretty complex... but all in one of those multiple fuse and relay enclosures... with a few diodes...
looking at adding a timer pcb into it to shut down the semas after a set time.
I will post it up when all is done and gremlins are ironed out. _________________ 1954 L227 Type 113
1964 L31 Type 265 |
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56Cabrio Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 1889 Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
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pig-pen Samba Member
Joined: December 04, 2012 Posts: 570 Location: United Kingdom
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Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:48 pm Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? |
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lol.. yep... sure does. Oh well, all the time I spent working it out equates to way more than the cost of this! _________________ 1954 L227 Type 113
1964 L31 Type 265 |
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adaysnight Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2021 Posts: 88 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:27 am Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? |
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i haven't tried this yet but it looks quite simple and should make the semaphores blink, as well as any turn signals that may be installed. now, which 6v flasher relay to get...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZsVGBEo8o |
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adaysnight Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2021 Posts: 88 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:37 am Post subject: |
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John Moxon wrote: |
My semaphores don't flash...who'd notice it on a 6 volt anyway but here's how mine is wired.
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from the diagram you've posted, it looks like your semaphores are connected directly to positive, through the switch of course. if you connect the semaphores to posts 5 and 6 respectively of the flasher relays they should blink as well...
i'm also considering this as a simpler solution,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZsVGBEo8o |
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56Cabrio Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 1889 Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:58 am Post subject: |
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adaysnight wrote: |
John Moxon wrote: |
My semaphores don't flash...who'd notice it on a 6 volt anyway but here's how mine is wired.
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from the diagram you've posted, it looks like your semaphores are connected directly to positive, through the switch of course. if you connect the semaphores to posts 5 and 6 respectively of the flasher relays they should blink as well...
i'm also considering this as a simpler solution,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZsVGBEo8o |
Wouldn't that make the semaphore flap up and down ? You would have to attach the flasher relay to the wire that makes the bulb light up inside the semaphore. _________________ F#CK CANCER
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adaysnight Samba Member
Joined: October 13, 2021 Posts: 88 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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56Cabrio wrote: |
Wouldn't that make the semaphore flap up and down ? You would have to attach the flasher relay to the wire that makes the bulb light up inside the semaphore. |
you are correct, i forgot about the solenoid action. yes, connecting to the light in the semaphore only should do the trick... that would require separate wire runs i think. so two connections to the semaphores, one for the solenoid (a constant positive from the switch) and one for the light in the semaphore from the flasher relay just like for the turn signals. you would need to disconnect the light from the solenoid power and run a separate wire for the light from the flasher relay... |
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56Cabrio Samba Member
Joined: May 22, 2008 Posts: 1889 Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
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