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PostPosted: Wed Jul 04, 2007 8:26 pm    Post subject: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? Reply with quote

I have a Australian assembled 1960 bug, it has semaphores/early taillights 6V. After market blinkers have been installed and the semaphores have been disconnected. Can you run both?

Ive seen seen a few British cars (Jag, Morris) getting around that run both at the same time. I've been told you cant do it, but hey Ive seen it done, has anyone else done this?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike, i have a 57 oval which i have modified my semaphores to flash as well as installed amber LEDs in the snowflake rear lights. I made a custom indicater circuit for it to work, so yes it is possible, Anton.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject: Semaphores and similtaneous blinkers Reply with quote

Hello Anton,

Big cheers for the post, cool you got the semaphores to flash as well, with the cars Ive seen only the blinkers flash.

Nice one, Mike
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My semaphores don't flash...who'd notice it on a 6 volt anyway but here's how mine is wired.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 05, 2007 7:58 am    Post subject: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? Reply with quote

Howdee John,

thanks for the wiring diagram, much appreciated.

Yeah your right people cant see jack and the others dont know what their looking at anyway, it would be nice to vaguely let people know I'm trying to turn a corner. Semaphores are illegal here, but hey people still do it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Mike , what rear lights are you using?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 7:03 am    Post subject: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? Reply with quote

Howdee 57

Runs early snowflake tail lights, the last year here for this feature here, last year for semaphores and 36hp motors as well.

I changed to a 40hp motor recently, bit unfortunate, really wanted keep it all original, but I had to make a compromise at the time...still, the car purrs, so its not all bad.

Check it out.

http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d102/miikel/mike_vw.jpg

Anyhow, yeah sorry its not an oval but I hope you like it
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2007 3:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Mike, looks good luv the flash trim.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 07, 2022 10:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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what flasher units are you using? brand/part number would be of great help. thank you
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? Reply with quote

And how do you work the brake lights into this method? Run separate stop lights?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 12:33 am    Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? Reply with quote

Just replace semaphore bulbs with 6V flashing LEDs; they get you noticed.

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I got my from:

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2022 12:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? Reply with quote

I will tell you the most straight forward way to do it without modifying anything or doing a ton of wiring is to grab an old accessory switch with the flashing tip.


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These typically have duplicate right and left circuits- so you can run one RT / LT circuit directly to the semaphores alone.
And the other RT/LT circuits through a flasher to the brake lights. It took me quite a bit of trial and error but it does work. The white one is the exact one I have in my 54'.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:32 am    Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? Reply with quote

So I have done it.. flashing semas, turn signals and a hazard circuit that does not run the semas... Its pretty complex... but all in one of those multiple fuse and relay enclosures... with a few diodes...
looking at adding a timer pcb into it to shut down the semas after a set time.

I will post it up when all is done and gremlins are ironed out.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 12:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? Reply with quote

Wouldn't this work for what your wanting to do ? ? ?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? Reply with quote

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Wouldn't this work for what your wanting to do ? ? ?
https://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/detail.php?id=704943


lol.. yep... sure does. Oh well, all the time I spent working it out equates to way more than the cost of this!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:27 am    Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? Reply with quote

i haven't tried this yet but it looks quite simple and should make the semaphores blink, as well as any turn signals that may be installed. now, which 6v flasher relay to get...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZsVGBEo8o
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My semaphores don't flash...who'd notice it on a 6 volt anyway but here's how mine is wired.

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from the diagram you've posted, it looks like your semaphores are connected directly to positive, through the switch of course. if you connect the semaphores to posts 5 and 6 respectively of the flasher relays they should blink as well...

i'm also considering this as a simpler solution,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZsVGBEo8o
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 11:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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John Moxon wrote:
My semaphores don't flash...who'd notice it on a 6 volt anyway but here's how mine is wired.

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from the diagram you've posted, it looks like your semaphores are connected directly to positive, through the switch of course. if you connect the semaphores to posts 5 and 6 respectively of the flasher relays they should blink as well...

i'm also considering this as a simpler solution,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4ZsVGBEo8o

Wouldn't that make the semaphore flap up and down ? You would have to attach the flasher relay to the wire that makes the bulb light up inside the semaphore.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Wouldn't that make the semaphore flap up and down ? You would have to attach the flasher relay to the wire that makes the bulb light up inside the semaphore.


you are correct, i forgot about the solenoid action. yes, connecting to the light in the semaphore only should do the trick... that would require separate wire runs i think. so two connections to the semaphores, one for the solenoid (a constant positive from the switch) and one for the light in the semaphore from the flasher relay just like for the turn signals. you would need to disconnect the light from the solenoid power and run a separate wire for the light from the flasher relay...
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 12:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Running semaphores and turnsignals together? Reply with quote

Instead of all that i would just buy these.. Very Happy
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